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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 07:35:39 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Qv7ruqmK; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: VhIOBQLKT5Gy Hello from East Germany! This email is not a bug report, but a polite suggestion to provide/offer Emacs manual, org-mode manual and org-guide in double-sided fashion for printing (PDF files). I would like to print out the whole Emacs manual, org-mode manual and org-guide on paper in double-sided fashion using the provided PDF files [1][2]. In the PDF file of the Emacs and org-mode manuals (and org-guide), every page number is located on the right side, which is only suitable for single-sided printing (in my opinion). That is why I have refrained from printing the whole manuals. What I need is: when I open the printed manuals and see two pages (left and right page), that the page number of the left page (even-numbered) is located on the left side, and the page number of the right page (odd numbered) is located on the right side. (Exactly like an opened book when it lies on a table.) How to achieve the correct location of the page number of each page for double-sided printing: According to the appendix E of the texinfo manual [3], one has to add the the line "@setchapternewpage odd" after the line "@titlepage". In the emacs.texi file at line 81 is located "@titlepage" and at line 82 I added "@setchapternewpage odd" according to [3], so it looks like this: [...] @titlepage @setchapternewpage odd @sp 6 @center @titlefont{GNU Emacs Manual} @sp 4 @center @value{EDITION} Edition, Updated for Emacs Version @value{EMACSVER}. [...] This modification produces the desired double-sided PDF file. I don't know whether just adding "@setchapternewpage odd" after "@titlepage" is the correct way to produce double-sided PDF files, but it works. (The "@titlepage" line in orgguide.texi and in org.texi is located in both files at line 11.) I am asking you whether you can provide additional PDF files at [1][2] in double-sided fashion or whether you can replace the current (single-sided) PDF manuals with manuals in double-sided fashion. I can produce the double-sided fashion manuals on my own, but I very much prefer to rely on an officially provided manual from the Emacs and org-mode team than relying on my own produced make-shift PDF files. Thank you very much! I apologize for my bad English and I hope this email makes sense. With best regards from East Germany! Jan Teubel [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/emacs.html [2]: https://orgmode.org/#docs [3]: https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Heading-Choice.html