From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Texas Cyberthal Subject: Re: org-adaptive-indent nil default Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2020 17:19:43 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59632) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j0MHl-0002rX-Tx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2020 04:20:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j0MHk-0003bp-Rl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2020 04:20:21 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-x334.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::334]:37986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j0MHk-0003bb-NV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2020 04:20:20 -0500 Received: by mail-ot1-x334.google.com with SMTP id z9so1693346oth.5 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2020 01:20:20 -0800 (PST) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" #+begin_quote alphapapa I think you have a better case for changing this setting. However, I think there is another consideration: the default settings do not put blank lines between headings and their entry text, and without any indentation, headings and entry text on varying levels tends to blend together, making for very poor readability. Disabling this setting would make this problem worse. #+end_quote I see what you mean now. Spacemacs lacks this problem thanks to org-bullets. > the default settings do not put blank lines between headings and their entry text, It doesn't. However, it puts a blank line between entry text and the next heading, when the current heading has a blank line preceding it. I always took this as advice to separate entry text and headings with blank lines. I assumed the lack of an automatic blank line immediately after a heading was due to the fact that one might wish to place a heading or a drawer on that line. I see that under the vanilla defaults, with no blank lines, the little adaptive indent at the start of the wrapped entry text helps one spot the start of a heading's ***** This is no big deal. Indenting the first line of a paragraph is a matter of taste. I had it confused with org-indent-mode, which wastes tons of space, but isn't enabled by default. Anyway, vanilla Org has profound UI issues that can't be sufficiently addressed to give normie-noobs a competitive modern induction experience. So it may as well stay however makes the devs happiest.