Re: org-mode based groupware wiki

[Waldemar Quevedo <waldemar.quevedo@gmail.com>]

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Hello Torsten,

> - Enhance org-ruby?
I would be glad to help out in this regard. About the completeness of the
implementation of the Org mode ruby parser, it would be very helpful for me
to have a set of examples that describe how each one of the features of Org
mode Emacs exporter should be rendered in to HTML.

I tried to do some work about this some time ago to identify the coverage
of Org ruby HTML exporting compared to the Org mode Emacs exporter:
https://github.com/wallyqs/org-mode-features/blob/master/features.org
https://github.com/bdewey/org-ruby/tree/master/spec/html_examples/
Is there a set of examples of all the features from Org mode anywhere?

By the way, recently Github has upgraded to the 0.8.1 version of the
org-ruby gem, so Org mode rendering to HTML should have improved a lot
(previous version they used was 0.5.3 so it took a while for them to
evaluate upgrading the gem).
https://github.com/github/markup/issues/186#issuecomment-25342870

Until I have identified the coverage, my current approach with developing
Org ruby is 'on demand', so if you find and issue please submit to the
issues tracker on Github: https://github.com/bdewey/org-ruby/issues

Cheers,

- Wally




On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Torsten Wagner <torsten.wagner@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
> recently I discovered gollumn [1] and was amazed to see that there is a
> software which allows non-orgers to work with / read my org-files and which
> even use git as the backend to get all save and nice together, even if
> working concurrently on the same files.
>
> I was wondering, because I never read about gollum in this ML and my
> search only revealed a very short three year old thread between Bastien and
> Eric Schulte. Despite that many of us was asking of possible ways how to
> use org as a groupware like environment. I guess this topic was discussed
> even more frequently over the last three years.
> Unfortunately, the main drawback, the usage of org-ruby [2] as org-mode
> parser still remains. I frighten that org-ruby only works on a small subset
> of the org-mode syntax and that even this might be a bit out-of-date. As
> far as I understood, org-mode in the meantime switched to a new exporter
> [3] and we got org-elements [4] and a heavy work towards standardization
> thanks to Nicolas Goaziou.
>
> What would be the best way to get the best out of the gollum idea and the
> new org-mode capabilities?
>
> - Skip gollumn and use (an updated) blorgit [5] (Does it have editor
> functionality?) ?
> - Enhance org-ruby?
> - Write a small script which creates a native html export from org-mode
> and hook this into gollumn? However, that would require emacs and org-mode
> being installed on the server side.
>
> For me gollums most important feature would be that people could use their
> web-browser and edit org-files. It might not be the most comfortable way of
> editing a org-file but a simple adding of a row into a table or rephrasing
> or adding a paragraph would be totally possible. It even might help to
> introduce people into using emacs and org-mode.
>
> It would be really nice to have such an easy access to org-files. Even
> hard-core orgers might like the idea to e.g. access and lightly modify
> there org-files on-the-go via smartphones and tablets without running a
> full emacs session. (I am aware of Mobileorg ;) )
>
> I got a bit into detail here to hopefully kick-off some discussions.
>
> All the best
>
> Torsten
>
>
> [1] https://github.com/gollum/gollum
> [2] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-ruby.html
> [3] http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-export-reference.html
> [4] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-api/org-element-api.html
> [5] http://orgmode.org/worg/blorgit.html
>

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