From: stardiviner <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: Jean Louis <email@example.com>
Cc: Bastien <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
email@example.com, Org-mode <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Re: More on design of org-contacts.el - Re: [UPDATED PATCH] Re: add new link type "contact:" for org-contacts.el
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:46:46 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL1eYuKKKFTvhCvXQ_ojxceTyOVsNh1nyrQ3yBe+QyW9N1pWEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Change an email is hard word for me. I use gmail address for many places.
I started to use new email for new accounts recently.
But switch email need to be later when I have time and desire.
And thanks for your suggestion of mail services. :smile:
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 2:50 PM Jean Louis <email@example.com> wrote:
> * stardiviner <firstname.lastname@example.org> [2020-11-16 13:21]:
> :ID: e2c30814-b983-4391-869a-3c700d041467
> > First, thank your very much for suggestion.
> > What really I have not found your email in my Gmail (in web
> > browser),
> Maybe because it went to Spam/Junk folder. For privacy and safety
> reasons I do not recommend using Gmail at all.
> I may recommend using your own email address, requires some money, or
> https://posteo.de/ https://tutanota.de/ or https://protonmail.ch/
> > I found it in mu4e (Emacs). Which I can't reply because I'm in
> > China, sendmail to Gmail SMTP server is blocked. So I'm replying you
> > in mu4e. Don't know whether you can receive my message.
> I wish I could understand, mu4e is only local system that searches
> emails on your computer. How you send emails depends on your email
> provider. Maybe you fetch mailing list to search for emails?
> > Using unique ID is the only solution to identity contact. I already
> > about this. But integrating org-id is hard for me. Have not spent that
> time on
> > it yet. But I will, if I want to improve this org-contacts.
> If I may just give idea. I am using this below function to
> automatically get ID numbers for headings. Normally it is by
> saving. Maybe you can do something to automatically insert such
> number. I do not know if heading is contact, but if it is, it becomes
> all easier.
> (defun rcd-org-add-ids-to-headlines-in-file ()
> "Add ID properties to all headlines in the current file which
> do not already have one."
> (org-map-entries 'org-id-get-create))
> > > Each hyperdocument (within or without Emacs) that allows back linking
> > > to its specifical parts should have a function or key binding to
> > > quickly obtain the link reference.
> Once you have decided how is contact referenced as now is referenced
> by query, I could maybe figure how to obtain the reference.
> It should not be that hard:
> - find the current heading
> - find current ID number
> - how link should look like could be customizable, maybe heading as
> visible part. That requires discussion.
> - prepare link into memory for pasting in other window or document.
> - it should also be possible to insert such into register.
> - the option to obtain link by query should be kept intact
> Maybe two keybindings or functions can be made:
> ** Proposal
> :ID: a566d476-f478-44d8-8d91-53f6eccca10b
> 1. One that finds the current heading and obtains the link
> (defun capture-contact-by-query-to-heading ()
> (let* ((heading (org-get-heading))
> (link (format "[[org-contact:query#%s][%s]]" heading heading)))
> (kill-new link)))
> => [[org-contact:query#Proposal][Proposal]]
> And such function should be expanded and be customizable:
> - maybe user wish to provide format string as maybe user wish to know
> visually that link leads to contact like:
> => [[org-contact:query#John Doe][Contact: John Doe]]
> 2. One that finds currentheading by its ID and obtains the link:
> (defun capture-contact-by-id-to-heading-1 ()
> (let* ((heading (org-get-heading))
> (id (org-id-get))
> (link (format "[[org-contact:id#%s][%s]]" id heading)))
> (defun capture-contact-by-id-to-heading ()
> (kill-new (capture-contact-by-id-to-heading-1)))
> => [[org-contact:id#a566d476-f478-44d8-8d91-53f6eccca10b][Proposal]]
> These are design ideas only. You may expand and make checks on these
> functions that such work properly.
> Additional functions that may be very usable is to quickly send links
> to other window. User is collecting the database of contacts in one
> file and one window and wishes to insert links into other window that
> references such contacts. In that file where you need a link you would
> arrive with cursor. Then you go to database of contacts and invoke a
> key that sends the yanked org link into other window.
> (defun contact-yank-link-in-other-window ()
> (let ((link (capture-contact-by-id-to-heading-1)))
> (kill-new link)
> (other-window 1)
> (other-window 1)
> (message "Yanked link: %s to other window" link)))
> It is up to you to expand or think on this as it is design
> proposal. Not finalized function or feature. When we wish to
> reference things we need it quick and fast.
> Org mode in general needs these types of functions:
> - to automatically obtain ANY link from Org mode to the heading
> and not just for users to write the link by hand. Examples are:
> - link to specific line
> - link to query, when text is marked, that link may be constructed,
> and also if necessary quickly inserted in other window (we use
> links to reference from same buffer to same buffer or from other
> buffer and file to other files). Such query could be automatically
> minimized that it does not carry all the marked words. Few words
> could be enough.
> - link to any heading or subheading by its name
> - link to any heading by its ID or CUSTOM_ID
> - and so on, there shall be various lists of links that can be
> quickly constructed and killed into memory or yanked into other
> - to automatically yank the link from one window to other window
> as that helps to user to construct references.
> Then in general, ALL programs that allow any kind of referencing such
> as opening PDF file by specific query, specific page, playing video at
> specific time, or for specific short period of time, should provide
> automated way of obtaining such structures to create hyperlinks.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-15 8:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-30 7:35 [PATCH] " stardiviner
2020-10-30 7:44 ` stardiviner
2020-11-09 0:24 ` stardiviner
2020-11-09 6:14 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 1:15 ` [UPDATED PATCH] " stardiviner
2020-11-11 8:37 ` Bastien
2020-11-11 12:04 ` stardiviner
2020-11-11 13:57 ` More on design of org-contacts.el - " Jean Louis
2020-11-16 9:26 ` stardiviner
2020-11-17 6:34 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15 8:46 ` stardiviner [this message]
2020-12-14 6:06 ` Bastien
2020-12-15 8:53 ` [final patch] " stardiviner
2020-12-15 9:56 ` Bastien
2020-12-15 14:13 ` stardiviner
2020-12-15 14:27 ` Bastien
2021-04-25 3:31 ` Timothy
2021-04-25 3:59 ` Timothy
2021-11-03 1:55 ` More on design of org-contacts.el - Re: [UPDATED PATCH] " stardiviner
2021-11-03 16:45 ` Bastien
2020-11-11 8:33 ` [PATCH] " Bastien
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