From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Leslie Watter Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:21:12 -0300 Message-ID: References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> Reply-To: leslie@watter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009f30b00576668b39" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57220) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3R53-0007Iv-N6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:27:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3R52-0005VH-GX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:27:09 -0400 Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: rms@gnu.org Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com --0000000000009f30b00576668b39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello all, Just a little information: since Dropbox update their API to 2.0 MobileOrg with this backend stopped to work, so anyone willing to use it will have to use either WebDAV, SSH or Local filesystem. AFAIK, there's no active development of MobileOrg in terms of having this issue [0] solved. Updating the software could help more than just forking it and publishing it with another name. There's some options (Orgzly, Syncthing) that can be used but none of them are as usefull as MobileOrg. So, if anyone could contact Matthew Jones (https://github.com/matburt) and offer some help I think that could be a better approach than just forking it. Unfortunately I cannot help at this point. Cheers, LEslie [0] - https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/issues/501 On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:17 PM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I asked > > > > Is the WebDAV server code free software? Can you talk to such a > > > server without any nonfree client software? > > Fortunately, Nicolas Goaziou 's information > shows that using WebDAV is no problem. > > > There are 2 other ways to use Android MobileOrg not included in the > > worg page: > > 1. SSH > > 2. Local filesystem > > It sounds like modifying Android MobileOrg so it used only those > methods plus WebDAV, and not Dropbox, could result in a free program > that could be in f-droid. It would be useful for someone to do that > and publish it under a different name. > > Once that gets done, it would be good to make Emacs encourage people to > use _that version_ of Android MobileOrg. > > Until then, Emacs (including Org-mode) should not say or do anything > that would be likely to lead users to use the existing MobileOrg. > We should remove that text soon, and put in new text about the new > version when that new version is available. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > > > > -- Leslie H. Watter --0000000000009f30b00576668b39 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello a= ll,

Just a little informat= ion:=C2=A0 since Dropbox update their API to 2.0
=
MobileOrg with this backend stopped to work, so anyone willing to use = it will have=C2=A0
to use either WebDAV, SSH or Local filesystem.= AFAIK, there's no active development of MobileOrg=C2=A0
in t= erms of having this issue [0] solved.

Updating the= software could help more than just forking it and publishing it with anoth= er name.=C2=A0 There's=C2=A0
some options (Orgzly, Syncthing)= that can be used but none of them are as usefull as MobileOrg.
<= br>
So, if anyone could contact=C2=A0Matthew Jones (https://github.com/matburt) and offer some he= lp=C2=A0
I think that could be a better approach than just forkin= g it. Unfortunately I cannot help at this point.

C= heers,

LEslie

[0] - https://gith= ub.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/issues/501

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:17 PM Richard Stall= man <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
=
[[[ To any NSA and FBI ag= ents reading my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
I asked

=C2=A0 > > Is the WebDAV server code free software?=C2=A0 Can you tal= k to such a
=C2=A0 > > server without any nonfree client software?

Fortunately, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>'s information
shows that using WebDAV is no problem.

=C2=A0 > There are 2 other ways to use Android MobileOrg not included in= the
=C2=A0 > worg page:
=C2=A0 > 1. SSH
=C2=A0 > 2. Local filesystem

It sounds like modifying Android MobileOrg so it used only those
methods plus WebDAV, and not Dropbox, could result in a free program
that could be in f-droid.=C2=A0 It would be useful for someone to do that and publish it under a different name.

Once that gets done, it would be good to make Emacs encourage people to
use _that version_ of Android MobileOrg.

Until then, Emacs (including Org-mode) should not say or do anything
that would be likely to lead users to use the existing MobileOrg.
We should remove that text soon, and put in new text about the new
version when that new version is available.

--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)







--
Leslie H. Watter
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