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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=pJg7ud5x; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1673745043; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mu7bpXsR1nBzGZxIXKv4UBmkYAJtdwzffECexZDC6+aBovMYS+lM1Ih5jraALRxgTj97h9 DjOXu0oSmfCNEUBWuvL0uZk/VenXV718WnbH6AySuabS0hSDCNmV3w1xAwhaGu44+Jw63O 4oH/PKrLs9T/6AAX02ZxWRr5nJ3mRq7W4LIQyIKP4ZIcvEt4y7Vhio9v+BRNe38zW1QfFY MCqnl+APU2aYdGc4O3RQHVUL1jfGd8HivqZpqr7/wWZI6/1Ewv+lCCL79bBlLivqv356sz P000oWcC+TDDhp6F2zBjEpNd9n1FS/fLINeK//INQkqCZTnCkJVWKkYbofr2nQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1673745043; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=RwKFGmI9ti6q9VpVfFj9rVpRZtD4L9BRsQL77oATg0Q=; b=UYJc7CZntZakjCBDjbg3FwFNuR/u2pxescxHIuheDS3BrfR9aWy02gmyMJtyfE2XTULSkA V6t5kyVrv4D4Svt8MUCwGl8eJeMQykj9eyVokJqJ0EmRUjBMp6h/yRFZj3pA8pjOCK6Psg i/2+6+5zV3hJE/s4txPFuwcfw7N/q607PlL54A3QoeKyLjCYRxEZLNofQN0tuOyyNde+n4 5oA9y1HzX3vFL4iSPcb6cyi7lGQ8j4WmUwVIBE9W664GcDzWiNfBE/hqi0rmjBJqb//ATi lgUVQp1wkvrD4WW81KO8rYdACSjvpAa++abhLwAiHfKyLRWxWJAo1kjDM9yI0w== X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4574A1C96A X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=pJg7ud5x; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -11.56 X-Spam-Score: -11.56 X-TUID: KU1YkRUoMsZu On 1/14/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > However, I do not see why we cannot implement them within the current > Org timestamp syntax: my concern would be personal code and 3rd-party packages, which might have their own peculiar parsing. that parsing might even be of non-org files with org syntax that is embedded in another syntax. [like, parsing diffs of org, with planning line tses and perhaps trying to accommodate various user settings for org indentation where possible.] if otoh org provides really good api that can even do that, then i suppose you could tell those devs to use that api. also my personal preference is for less new org syntax. which is one reason why i like cl-style sexp kw for future features and subfeatures. syntax can be hard to look up in the org manual, hard to remember, etc. but that's mho.