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On 8/4/21, Peter Neilson wrote: > On Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:47:11 -0400, William Denton wrote: > >> When I've marked a TODO item as DONE and want to get it out of my >> projects list, I've always used C-c C-x C-a >> (org-archive-subtree-default) to get it out of the way. >> >> Today I had to go through the archive file to find an old note about >> something, and the file was huge because it was filled with many trivial >> >> TODOs that didn't need to be archived. For example, If I'm waiting to >> hear back from someone, when they reply I usually just want to mark the >> task DONE and delete it. I don't need to record it forever. >> >> Maybe I've been using the archiving not as intended, but I don't see any >> >> other command for getting rid of a TODO. I can't find a command to >> delete the current task. Am I missing something? Is there a keystroke >> to delete a TODO? Or does everyone archive everything? >> >> Bill >> >> -- >> William Denton >> https://www.miskatonic.org/ >> Librarian, artist and licensed private investigator. >> Toronto, Canada > > It's just text. Delete it. ^k^k or (for bigger items) establish a region > and kill it (^w). > > If you would like (since you're in emacs) you can write yourself a special > > button to do it. > > -- The Kafka Pandemic Please learn what misopathy is. https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html