From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Samuel Wales Subject: Re: Org-mode outside Org-mode Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:45:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87txoc7jvr.fsf@gmail.com> <874nfm9ylq.fsf@gmail.com> <87txnl486a.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwt4ownq.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UR7KG-0003gL-QV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:45:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UR7KF-0002fT-Om for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:45:32 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]:40142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UR7KF-0002fP-J5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:45:31 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hm11so542026wib.1 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:45:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87mwt4ownq.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Thorsten Jolitz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Thorsten, On 4/12/13, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > If you structure your Emacs Lisp files the 'outshine way', you can > convert them into complete Org files fast and easily using 'outorg.el'. No, we are talking about different things. With what I am talking about, you can: - put your Org notes in your main Org agenda files exactly where you want them - efficiently use planning information to create daily/weekly agenda entries - bounce to and from the exact location in your source code to the exact Org entry Therefore, the category of tools I suggested to you -- which consists of annotation-like mechanisms -- is a completely different way of tackling the problem of dealing with source code and Org simultaneously. Yet it is a way of dealing with them simultaneously, which is the reason I suggested putting them in your document also, if you felt like it. I believe that your outshine and outorg methods cannot do all of those things. Therefore, I believe that they do not solve the same problems at all. Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. ANYBODY can get it. There is NO hope without action. This means YOU.