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On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > maybe most folk are ok with 3 windows + minibuffer. this is not useful to > me. > > On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >> please feel free to give up if that doesn't get it across. i can't >> continue a bac and forth for unrelated reasons. >> >> On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >>> scratch the expanded thing. >>> >>> it ends up showing orig smaller less useful, links uselessly >>> boilerplate, completions -- 3 windows! and a terse minibuffer i >>> wouldn't be able to use. -q. i cannot use such a ui. >>> >>> in contrast, what i expected is orig, and then expanded minibuffer >>> with, instead of doi: and so on, has useful links as descriotions. >>> only 1 window, if you don't count minibuffer. >>> >>> On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >>>> defait cp[;etopm immediately makes 2 windows [orig+links] + expanded >>>> completion imnibuffer. not useful for me. >>>> >>>> On 7/3/23, Max Nikulin wrote: >>>>> On 02/07/2023 13:03, Samuel Wales wrote: >>>>>> there is not supposed to be any connection between org refile or org >>>>>> goto with the code in org insert link. >>>>>> >>>>>> completion works to select ol paths for org refile and also for org >>>>>> refile when it is doing goto. i just want the same for links. >>>>> >>>>> I am giving up my attempts to clarify a possible issue with completion >>>>> by description in `org-insert-link'. It works for me. >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/1/23, Max Nikulin wrote: >>>>>>> On 02/07/2023 12:02, Samuel Wales wrote: >>>>>>>> another window would not work for me but using completion as i do >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> e.g. refile goto would. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Samuel, you claimed that completion by description does not work for >>>>>>> `org-insert-link'. I expect that it is fixed in Org-9.6 since I do >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> see the issue with the default completion. It is the reason why I >>>>>>> asked >>>>>>> you to confirm that *default completion* works for you as well. I >>>>>>> suspect that the cause of your problem is either ido or your >>>>>>> customization. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see no connection of `org-refile' and `org-goto' with the code in >>>>>>> `org-insert-link'. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Kafka Pandemic >>>> >>>> A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: >>>> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Kafka Pandemic >>> >>> A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: >>> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> The Kafka Pandemic >> >> A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: >> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com >> > > > -- > The Kafka Pandemic > > A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: > https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com