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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Robert Pluim , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.06 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=SykX91Zn; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0778C940275 X-Spam-Score: -3.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: gYOGx2M/bVt7 i guess i was merely saying: instead of h, which a new user might not try, something that works for everything in emacs might be a possibility. but c-h m and c-h b could perhaps be improved a bit and include mode-specific text [details left to reader as exercise]. On 2/5/21, Marco Wahl wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> are there precedents? calc? h in dired does c-h m. > > Looks to me like calc shines brightest with its help system which btw > one enters with key h. > > Up to now I see the precedents > > - dired > - help-mode > - view-mode > - Buffer-menu-mode > > They all have h be the same as C-h m (describe-mode) AFAICS. > >> just a brainstorm but maybe c-h m and c-h b can be more friendly for all >> modes? > > I don't get this. Would you like to elaborate, please? > > > Ciao, > -- Marco > > > -- The Kafka Pandemic Please learn what misopathy is. https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html