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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1656458627; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=h1Gc4nTCiQpJ/q3DFRB+mgHYZEGm+VGcouZKz8KxYtQ=; b=mAMQNmI2+gBBkj1HUptIPU/mn/OGo6vzX88CsXit6xk3exYSRFNe+A3dxS3xoc2PKYOtya 5pCmZA2ZRgIKeJKXfYOB2t/FqOimXZi/u85G3eX/1EkRGTf4AZOpcJjSFDW2LjpsfzCWJj 6li76jepPFfYPZyubnWaQmiuh35ou8f/vOz8UqX6EzVk3PCNZBAAC6DaJoTJHO4XqhYUWz xN4b0YjmVMky6oAa1KT0ADYJdXra5h9Jim3BWg+GsC6tOKMQLI8LO/g6MZZ/O+oFEmUvDa rWxMAXwO6Ec/gygUa4FxhEaQY6z5f7lYq5bBjDeQcC5jxAdtjDnXF18zL2Rwaw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1656458627; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kcEOjPtVP5m33g3d2c654PN9UYyRIJAb30xut5gT/jRmttLDN2qug/EbOla51vqg4z7JfR OUn+qQa4jsdd7eFYkSmrE5HjFBdu/rQqFVQVp4iFTww4bKYr5mqvxYv+dMTYxJcGS3JnwD l4Vx455hldbfDktZlFqODUDMvbA3jcBTw0/jTEHIOUd4JEuPk9vCcJ3kdgJ2Vm27a80cp0 TF/V6ehU/Xn3MWixAjZ47T5kR1Kw4HLsQODmzB0IFDrj6nl4D3fq9FjWHjF+342+I/fuw1 w/JO1V9/D2/hNbGVm5wV+HU1np665GlaSRYAtPDqKcPw1axwF71mxb4lmKr90w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="CFA9WA/l"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.76 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="CFA9WA/l"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AF6B929BE1 X-Spam-Score: -8.76 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: yK7eatFoUt7M this iirc has been obsolete for many years and ime and on ml never was an issue. i tried to find out why it was mentioned but did not find anything. it might have been an ambiguity in the manual to do with active tses like in your example? e.g. the agenda will remove the active ts at least in certain cases, but that is a deliberate feature. i successfully rely on inactive as below. they are sorted by the ts. a capture template inserts them. much better than date trees for my case. always show, sorted at bottom, no hierarchy, nothing out of sync, can scan and bisect to find an entry or get a sense of number, can change a ts and sort again, looks the same in the agenda, etc. ***** LOG [2021-07-01 Thu] vulcans mediating with klingons ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] brawl. scottie of course :(. ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] hauled away AS garbage? ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] klingons said garbage scow On 6/28/22, Ypo wrote: > I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates in > headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual. > > Like: > > **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting > > Best regards > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com