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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Ypo , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1617053985; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=dRDHrzbihZm3S5YXlgnvtk4hgw9T4UlGaJIRm8KIbzs=; b=VEdBRVv1S65uqDIYcjpJi3VO+/YVjvcBLXuxi5eOIst6AmYe/bEYNzFHWXMxRgfoudN9tX pAjazuY6IFnp12U11JA3p+5pHM93OiZ9usTIhhvtT4T+XLyjNHaBQjZLkXerbgjCxijS/4 6Jz0RJ5aEDYiv6WRawgF7eZHw3k+hGkoluQGugYEYtp+wMtotL2/k46r/k45XiHHUyaP06 Flzqmiz9Ns2WLFfFak6jNYKa28AB4Kw9XecitHQODoXmwfUn0hT6sy2xMipt691fMt028k GuyZoWtkybrX9qMqb4GM9tRBAI/ebpOKcOqFfJPPiE5UVcA4ENn2RLBp40TkTg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1617053985; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ZAGLe8nnfPMNCbkZU1LD1ejyM1QbPjfystKI/mpDZQA2yJQpB5Xik6M6wwrAObCr6Y8WxA 6xCaXcEbgqCnwTEc3K5Czpg24+nzKoDO2/dzn2egor9fhW5VdMwkhZ0fMsTf1ujsEZzyf5 Bnt2my2i43zTuEvLOASRvvs8JZTCehiQVhOZZGSEMOPE0qLtkwBhyuiIrYWG5dRxzXKJqn GEXWSzu0YzjasgXhYVIAOZ2rLDAjy80hYqw5F71itmPMMn/q55eSoSm41cFIsRnDJ7TvVp or+H7O8fTMEXE4vDu0LQGHqeoCl+SUgzXoFaxBYs7kObCsCtB33zvjlEarllgA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BSl68IdV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BSl68IdV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 80391CE40 X-Spam-Score: -1.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: gAB0N/Ui7aju is org ootb mma? for those of us who woul dlike to spend, like, zero time exporting, and then, like, less than a half hour fixing htat one thing that is irritating about hte output, with no errors? i can dream. On 3/29/21, autofrettage wrote: > Hi Ypo and the rest of you all, > >> After some years of using orgmode, and exporting using its defaults, I >> would like to take a quality leap and find a way of exporting for life. = My >> options: LaTeX, ODT, HTML. > /.../ >> How do you think I should spend some hundreds (or thousands) of hours to >> achieve maestry exporting my documents? > > I have some odd thoughts about this. > > About 30 years ago I worked for a start-up company. As a young engineer, > freshly hooked on LaTeX, I tried to convince my colleagues we should prod= uce > the users' manuals for our product with LaTeX. Since persuasive speech is > not one of my strengths, they opted for Word 5. > > For various reasons I stayed for only a few years. Recently I visited the= m, > and heard that the users' manuals had been ported hither and thither betw= een > various wysiwyg DTP programs. They are now back in Word, and my former > colleagues didn't even remember the documents had started their journey > there! > > If they only had listened to me in the beginning! > > The moral seems to be that whatever time and effort you plow into learnin= g > LaTeX, will not be wasted. Chances are that LaTeX will be there in thirty > years' time, working roughly the same as now. > > > Roughly. At a fine grain level, LaTeX -- not to speak about Org Mode -- i= s a > moving target. How on earth can you hope for attaining mastery at exporti= ng > documents? Many individuals are continuously refining these tools, so the > mere mortals among us will always fight a losing battle keeping up. > > > Late adoption is a great trick for making life a bit easier. Postpone > teaching yourself the latest tricks, until other friendly internet citize= ns > have had time to write streamlined explanations ;-) > > > Last but not least, think like Bruce Lee: > > =E2=80=9CYou must be shapeless, formless, like water. When you pour water= in a cup, > it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottl= e. > When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can drip an= d > it can crash. Become like water my friend.=E2=80=9D* > > So, teach yourself whatever you need now (where "now" includes a foreseea= ble > future). > > Cheers > Rasmus > > * LaTeX =3D ninjutsu, ODT =3D boxing, HTML =3D kick in the groin? > > --=20 The Kafka Pandemic Please learn what misopathy is. https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged= .html