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From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: "Panayotis Manganaris" <panos.manganaris@gmail.com>,
	"Tor-björn Claesson" <tclaesson@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
	"Philip Kaludercic" <philipk@posteo.net>,
	"Omar Antolín Camarena" <omar@matem.unam.mx>,
	"Jonas Bernoulli" <emacs.transient@jonas.bernoulli.dev>,
	"Juri Linkov" <juri@linkov.net>,
	karthikchikmagalur@gmail.com, Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>,
	"Justin Burkett" <justin@burkett.cc>
Subject: Re: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 14:20:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcAo8sy5i+-wTEwb2XLksSKdLDQH1-7byj8dM8CAztu2LQ1pg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878qsifufe.fsf@localhost>

a couple of quick and somewhat obvious comments.  i use VERY large
fonts with a maximized gui emacs [vt / maximized urxvt  when needed],
still resulting in, throughout emacs, often, a smaller number of
screen lines or columns than content, even with my usual one window
per frame.  most org menus respect this and can be scrolled or
tweaked.  just wanted compatibility to be in the specs.  especially,
to make sure no functionality is unreachable, but also where possible
to modify column numbers / fill to look ok.  i am slowly trying
transient in gptel and still getting used to it.

next, i use org-mouse and think it's wonderful.  generally, when using
a computer, i use mouse-only or kb-only, but not the combination.
mouseability was mentioned, but just wanted, where possible, the
ability to do most things using only mouse in addition to only kb.
and, where possible, org-mouse compatibility or replacement, whichever
is deemed best.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 3:08 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
>
> Panayotis Manganaris <panos.manganaris@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Menus should of course be useful without embark. If the goal here is to
> > deprecate many of org's ad-hoc interfaces, I think the natural default
> > replacement for most is completing-read. I may be completely wrong.
>
> For the existing interfaces, we are not going to change things in
> incompatible ways. The idea is to keep the existing menus working as
> similarly as possible compared to the current ad-hoc menus.
> So, no, we are not going to replace things with completing-read.
> Not by default.
>
> But what I hope to see is a way for users to customize the UI to their
> preference. Without touching the defaults.
>
> > On the other hand, e.g. if the org export dispatch menu isn't transient,
> > it should be. Seems obvious to me.
>
> Yes. That's where we will have to use transient.
> This discussion mostly concerns simpler cases when user needs to choose
> from a list.
>
> --
> Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
> Org mode maintainer,
> Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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> or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-16  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-14 12:36 Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu? Tor-björn Claesson
2024-09-15 14:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-09-17 12:18   ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-09-22 12:50     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-09-24 10:07       ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-12 17:31         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-22  7:23           ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-22 17:58             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-24 14:18             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-24 17:32               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-26 11:45                 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-27  8:09                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-27  9:17                     ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-29  4:58                   ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-29 18:55                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-30  5:37                       ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-30 18:43                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-31 18:55                           ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-31 19:05                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-31 20:47                               ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-01  8:27                                 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-01 17:08                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-02 19:04                                     ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-02 19:21                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-02 21:37                                         ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-03  7:40                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-05 10:07                                             ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-09 14:08                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-10 16:33                                                 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-10 16:41                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-11 10:03                                                     ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-11 15:52                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-12  9:26                                                         ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-12 18:03                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
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2024-11-17  9:30                                                                   ` Fwd: " Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-23 16:41                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-25 17:49                                                                       ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-10 19:11                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-11  9:57                                                                           ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-11 10:05                                                                           ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-13 18:41                                                                             ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:09                                                                               ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14  9:57                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 10:59                                                                                   ` Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14 13:10                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:57                                                                               ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  9:59                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 14:30                                                                                   ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  1:16                                                                               ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Panayotis Manganaris
2024-12-14 10:08                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 21:20                                                                                   ` Samuel Wales [this message]
2024-12-16 17:54                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-17  2:08                                                                                       ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17  2:24                                                                                         ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17 18:04                                                                                         ` Transient: accessibility problems for users who need to use large fonts (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-18  7:19                                                                                           ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 10:52                                                                                             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-18 10:47                                                                                         ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-14 10:50                                                                               ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? indieterminacy
2024-12-14 17:53                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-15  9:07                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-16  7:46                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-16 18:06                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 18:23                                                                               ` Kierin Bell
2024-12-17 17:23                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-12-14  0:37 [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Psionic K
2024-12-14  9:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 23:20 ` Karthik Chikmagalur
2024-12-14 23:47 ` Karthik Chikmagalur
2024-12-15  3:01   ` Psionic K

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