From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Samuel Wales Subject: closed != done Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 16:54:52 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47314) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1atkuU-0007UR-QJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 19:54:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1atkuT-0008La-JN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 19:54:54 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e]:34851) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1atkuT-0008LW-Dz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 19:54:53 -0400 Received: by mail-vk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id t129so155991251vkg.2 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 16:54:53 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org i've noticed that the agenda /time grid/ considers a task closed if it has a closed ts. this indicates that closed status is determined by the closed tag. it colors the line green, just like doneish keywords are. but i've also noticed that a closed non-doneish kw that is also scheduled will show up as still scheduled in the /non-time-grid/ part of the agenda. i'd prefer it check the fact that it is closed and consider it closed here, and no longer scheduled, just as is done in the time grid part of the agenda. i.e. if somethign is closed and scheduled, then it is no longer scheduled, no matter what. that's what i think should be the case. certainly, closed tasks without doneish keywords might be considered impossible and wrong https://xkcd.com/386/ to the uninitiated. or even to the initiated. but having 2 ways to determine closedness/doneishness in the two parts of the agenda seems perhaps slightly redundant in this case? my use case for drawing a distinction between closed and doneish is that i want to have a task that is closed for agenda purposes, but never gets archived, and i want to indicate this with a special todo kw, which is not doneish, where it is immediately apparent to me, not a tag. it feels wrong to use a doneish todo kw for this purpose. it's not done. it will stick around. but it is closed. it will not appear in the agenda as scheduled. done means goes away. gets sorted to the bottom. does not get archived. done. gone. disposed of. it also means i don't have to pay much attention to it normally. closed scheduled means does not appear in the agenda as scheduled. it means i might want to refer to it, but it is no longer scheduled. therefore closed and doneish are subtly different things, even though most of the time they are consilient. same with deadline. my proposed solution is to make the non-grid part of the agenda recognize closed scheduled as not scheduled, just as it does in the grid part of the agenda. i am limited in computer use, so i might not be able to explain in sufficient detail should there be questions or controversy. or if this all sounds alien to you. or if i got something wrong. but i will try if you'll give me the grace of a close reading of the issue.