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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Ignacio Casso , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, tom@tomdavey.com Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1647994774; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=aQsCQzr9R0W9mLnDM8oVBZpCad7st+Kk8egXrM3iSKI=; b=Ajtv57RuVFk2kaO4gsFwJW4XA59bkkBf7qvJbJK+fKZ5nob/vgJbN+e/GuCwO6Ndxf41aZ Z4y8p9kSRTdYDyLbvnz5HctdubZPZbG99QxlYQcPYb1iJWYY1bZExdkNifbezX3T+pFHtm U+EME23d/I/xoI4QjaJ2r0MVAzv9ZeL9zZIUMEho3balUws7Ri9Nca+1UZW4GojSmfUbCV Pbs5+bS2rXUlV4Het3XtERXBFYAn/fc3VG7kDd5pv/4/ovfiMD2RXG41nRYvQBoYvseCrF BYtr+Z4+XwquW/cDGNI1YfECbHGq9ljbQfL4dXwhZmIrGOwriudupC3WVlWMmA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1647994774; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FOOuqFhv4d29DjU0+GiATBNkRxd1JdBOGaVpofadAoNUyNu1K2JyECcxinpCYtDrh32hVt skwPuizCurXfFGjVA0ZHpSI6wsk7WSbwoNKLQzylQrvnao/PTOsHHTv+vGgcLidtvUly9L S6EjgVxzO+bo+NcEq/UISnlth4K8AST8NxN5K08wviUP8gI0deDMMTb+PUQoTUX913FBsw O7UrPq4bigVzfSAgWVgglTMci/vQcN2L+BdI49s9pbiGfWNloOTTTSB1YD71nUmWAUoo3K UtE5xLqnxbJYBXbrmIqcEG1dD7VmZQ48ZQccoDjDAIBWI6gd3qFVMoUWcwUdqw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=GeviHW6D; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 6.10 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=GeviHW6D; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 96F59E90B X-Spam-Score: 6.10 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: kkp3A09RApum On 3/22/22, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > lax - agenda may match anything date-looking (with or without brackets). > A specialized regex agenda matcher with regex constructed using current > agenda date. > > Maybe we can introduce a new agenda view? Or maybe a special agenda > mode, similar to org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps? over the years i have seen different opinions on contexts in which tses [and links, not to make it more complex but to in principle strive for some type of orthogonality iff discussion goes there] should show up in agenda and where it should not. [as a same page type of check, for tses we are talking about "daily/weekly" which has different semantics from search agenda and cannot be reproduced with search agenda via parameterization.] another context [not to create controversy but also for in principle orthogonality] is line comments, which some think should mean tses and links therein should not show up in agenda and not fontify and not be clickable [rule = "remove tses and links from org semantics and fontification including agenda but not including certain org searchers like org-occur-in-agend-files"], while others think should mean "remove from all export" [use case: so you as author can document exportable stuff inline using comments and still have your tses show up in daily/weekly if you want that and have clickable links without having those exposed to the recipient of the exported document, etc.]. links in line comments can be worked around with a bit of code, but idk about tses. some will want tses commentable. some not. your idea of expanding to other date-like things is an interesting idea, and so is making an analogy with log mode. another possibility is to satisfy the preferences users have expressed [and those with n>1 needs] using a single variable that contains the contexts that should show in daily/weekly agenda. org uses multi-item variables more frequently in recent years [e.g. org-show-context-detail or visibility for sparse trees] which reduces vars. you might have had log mode items in mind, which is similar. thus in principle it need not be a mode like log mode items, but could be in agenda custom commnds. i think a whole view [unlike log mode and tag filtering] might be confusing to newcomers as [just as with sorting and log mode items and allow COMMENT and allow ARCHIVE] the regular daily/weekly view is parameterizable. i know i got confused by the todo view, wondering if it was something not creatable with parameterization. so i would go for your second idea, or the var. i do think different preferences exist out there, some strong. with one or the other, future defaults are trivially changed, transparent/discoverble by user, and open to user change. [one problem now being that users can be not merely surprised, but unaware that stuff is missing from agenda.] > > Best, > Ihor >