From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: Samuel Loury <konubinix@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Subject: Re: stability of toc links
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:30:41 -0700 [thread overview]
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as it has been a long time my original post is
Message ID <CAJcAo8tXVW39h18FUXLtwoDYNKQsFHqCp+YDiyWfLee29B1PRw@mail.gmail.com>
and the content is
===
when you link to a section using toc, you get a link like
https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2020/02/crimes-against-humanity_3.html#org080f0ab
will these links break if somebody copies them and pastes them
elsewhere? what if you add a section?
there doesn't seem to be a perfect solution, short of adding custom id
or id to everything, but perhaps a fuzzy hash of the header and
contents of the section could be used? or a strict hash of the
header? is anything like this being done? just curious.
===
On 4/21/21, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> more below. [note the two samuels.]
>
> On 4/21/21, Samuel Loury <konubinix@gmail.com> wrote:
>> advance what heading he will share, so he would have to add CUSTOM_ID
>> everywhere, just in case. This sounds like a lot of unnecessary work.
>>
>> The solution of tec¹ appears to be a new generation of the html ids based
>> on the heading content rather than apparently randomly generated, making
>> the generated link become the same across new generations.
>>
>> I hope it clarified the discussion.
>
> it did improve it. thank you. the above is concise and clear.
>
> suppose reader A wants to send a link to reader B.
>
> one exported [i did not use org's publish facility] post is
> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2020/02/crimes-against-humanity_3.html
> . it has MANY sections. i turn off toc for a whole section and then
> put a toc in that section just to make the main toc less forbidding.
> here is the html for just the top few entries of the main toc --
> notice 3 links each with a hex code that changes.
>
> <div id="table-of-contents">
> <h2>Table of Contents</h2>
> <div id="text-table-of-contents">
> <ul>
> <li><a href="#org360b8b5">This post</a></li>
> <li><a href="#orgdff6ff2">The name of the law</a></li>
> <li><a href="#orgeb015f7">Basic facts</a></li>
>
> suppose i add a section after This post. Most links will now be
> broken. A could have sent any of them to B as raw hex links.
>
> i just want the problem understood at the user level. i get that
> there are possible implementation issues.
>
> i spent 16 years researching and writing the blog post. i don't want
> links to be broken or to have to kludge in a bunch of custom id or org
> id properties drawers just in case somebody links. even if drawers
> are added to every linked section automatically, it's a lot of clutter
> and slowness [org id searches are slow and drawers have performance
> issues that are being worked on but not merged into maint yet]. that
> is a lot of drawers just for links that might or might not be sent.
>
> i am limited in computer use so i will probably not pursue this
> further if there is no interest.
>
> there is some interest. e.g. carsten said he thought tec's code or
> somethign like it should be merged into org qua org.
>
> --
> The Kafka Pandemic
>
> Please learn what misopathy is.
> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
>
--
The Kafka Pandemic
Please learn what misopathy is.
https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-21 23:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-08 23:28 stability of toc links Samuel Wales
2020-12-08 23:30 ` Samuel Wales
2020-12-09 1:39 ` Tom Gillespie
2020-12-12 21:51 ` TRS-80
2020-12-12 22:47 ` TRS-80
2022-10-10 0:49 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-10 1:37 ` Samuel Wales
2022-10-11 3:12 ` Robert Weiner
2022-10-11 11:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-09 2:48 ` TEC
2020-12-09 8:45 ` Diego Zamboni
2020-12-09 9:15 ` Carsten Dominik
2020-12-09 21:25 ` Samuel Wales
2020-12-10 9:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2020-12-10 12:49 ` TEC
2020-12-10 14:36 ` TEC
2020-12-11 7:51 ` Carsten Dominik
2020-12-19 6:41 ` Carsten Dominik
2020-12-19 11:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-04-18 21:02 ` Samuel Wales
2020-12-14 10:46 ` Dominique Dumont
2021-04-18 10:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-20 0:58 ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-20 10:34 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-21 0:33 ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-21 8:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-21 13:32 ` Samuel Loury
2021-04-21 16:24 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 15:15 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-23 20:46 ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-23 20:48 ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-23 20:51 ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-24 3:05 ` Timothy
2021-04-25 17:01 ` Dominique Dumont
2021-04-30 6:24 ` Timothy
2021-04-30 12:20 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-21 23:20 ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-21 23:30 ` Samuel Wales [this message]
2021-04-29 21:40 ` TRS-80
2021-04-29 22:18 ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-30 1:48 ` TRS-80
2021-04-30 5:13 ` Tim Cross
2021-04-30 10:02 ` Samuel Loury
2021-04-30 11:12 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-30 21:12 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-01 12:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-01 12:48 ` Timothy
2021-05-01 13:13 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-01 13:47 ` Timothy
2021-05-01 14:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-01 14:22 ` Timothy
2021-05-02 12:10 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-02 20:16 ` Timothy
2022-10-11 11:44 ` [FR] [Revived] Human readable / customizable link anchors during export (was: stability of toc links) Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-11 19:20 ` [FR] [Revived] Human readable / customizable link anchors during export Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-10-12 6:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-12 17:38 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-01 3:08 ` stability of toc links Greg Minshall
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