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[in my case by variations i mean e.g. which version of emacs, which version of org, whether my .emacs is loaded. i doubt this is needed, but some users might want to set such things sometimes for comparison. probably simplicity should be a higher priority.] second, this is for which instantiations of org? git yes, what about package managers? built-in org?? On 4/30/22, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Hi, > > In the Feedback section of the manual, we provide instructions on how to > create reproducers: https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html > > The instructions are nice, but I was thinking to simplify things for the > users further. > > I propose a new make target: make repro > It will run the commands we already suggest, but without a need to > create minimal file, pass all that arguments to emacs, etc > > WDYT? > > Best, > Ihor > > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com