From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jorge Subject: Re: How to safely update from ver. 8.2.10 to 8.3.x Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:35:04 -0300 Message-ID: References: <9b5e20d8d0274582a17d4ddb04aaf999@exchsrv2.sgc.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51551) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bbvw3-0001bo-MU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:35:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bbvw1-00035j-EC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:35:06 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22a]:35686) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bbvw1-00035Z-9b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:35:05 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id v123so91513204qkh.2 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:35:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: "Cook, Malcolm" Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Maria Shinoto On 22 August 2016 at 14:19, Cook, Malcolm wrote: >> In the last command I forgot to drop the -Q. But I guess it works eithe= r way. > > I would not trust the result from failing to drop the -Q since the -Q is = what prevents your init file from loading, which we are explicitly trying t= o avoid for the sake of compiling org in a fresh environment. > According to [[info:emacs#Initial Options]], --batch implies -q. About -q and -Q, we have: =E2=80=98-q=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98--no-init-file=E2=80=99 Do not load any initialization file (*note Init File::). When Emacs is invoked with this option, the Customize facility does not allow options to be saved (*note Easy Customization::). This option does not disable loading =E2=80=98site-start.el=E2=80=99. [...] =E2=80=98-Q=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98--quick=E2=80=99 Start emacs with minimum customizations. This is similar to using =E2=80=98-q=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98--no-site-file=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98-= -no-site-lisp=E2=80=99, and =E2=80=98--no-splash=E2=80=99 together. This also stops Emacs from processing X resources by setting =E2=80=98inhibit-x-resources=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98t=E2=80= =99 (*note Resources::). So --batch implies -q, which is enough to bypass init.el. -Q is stronger than -q: it adds =E2=80=98--no-site-file=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98--no-s= ite-lisp=E2=80=99, and =E2=80=98--no-splash=E2=80=99 and inibits X resources. But AFAIK, only my = init.el loads Org, and not site-start.el, which is empty here, or any Lisp file in a site-lisp directory. I searched every file in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp for "org" and I didn't find any line that loads Org. I am an Emacs beginner though, so I may be wrong. --=20 - I am Brazilian. I apologize for possibly bad English and I welcome corrections. - Please adopt free formats like PDF, ODF, LaTeX, Vorbis, Opus, WebM and 7z= . - Free software for Android: https://f-droid.org/