From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: NLS/Augment Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:56:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20190812084345.GC20344@protected.rcdrun.com> <20190814133519.GF9093@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bc3afe0590141296" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54807) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hxthu-00084E-Ve for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:52:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hxtht-0005KC-FL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:52:54 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::333]:34530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hxtht-0005Jn-0j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:52:53 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id e8so3390815wme.1 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:52:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20190814133519.GF9093@protected.rcdrun.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Jean Louis Cc: Steve Quezadas , org-mode-email --000000000000bc3afe0590141296 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" strange. It has always worked fine for me. It turns out in the long run I don't use it much, C-c C-c does the same thing on check boxes, and speed commands on headings end up being easier to use for me. YMMV of course. John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 9:35 AM Jean Louis wrote: > * John Kitchin [2019-08-12 15:05]: > > > > Jean Louis writes: > > > > > * Steve Quezadas [2019-08-12 05:59]: > > >> Guys, > > >> > > >> This is a slightly offtopic, but I've been using org-mode and I love > love > > >> loveit. Was the writing of org-mode related in any way to Douglas > > >> Engelbart's NLS/Augment system? A lot of the features seem to > crossover. Or > > >> is this simply coincidence? > > > > > > I have been watching the demonstration on these pages: > > > http://dougengelbart.org/content/view/216/000/#Augment > > > > > > and videos by Christina Engelbart, > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLCGFadV4FqU15vunAfsTDzeEPnHDaf7n0&v=STRuciV6L38 > > > > > > Org mode look similar to that Augment browser, definitely. With > > > differences. But it looks as nice information management system. > > > > > > It would be good that Org mode gets some kind of buttons follow the > > > mouse feature upon turning it on, just as shown on this video: > > > https://vimeo.com/81238285 > > > > > > > I think (require 'org-mouse) provides lots of mouse support for > > opening/closing outlines, checking/unchecking checkboxes, etc. > > I have tried it, but it does not turn on at all times. Documentation > is vague. It is unclear how should it turn on. > > Jean > --000000000000bc3afe0590141296 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Wed, Aug = 14, 2019 at 9:35 AM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
* John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.e= du> [2019-08-12 15:05]:
>
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
>
> > * Steve Quezadas <steveeq1@gmail.com> [2019-08-12 05:59]:
> >> Guys,
> >>
> >> This is a slightly offtopic, but I've been using org-mode= and I love love
> >> loveit. Was the writing of org-mode related in any way to Dou= glas
> >> Engelbart's NLS/Augment system? A lot of the features see= m to crossover. Or
> >> is this simply coincidence?
> >
> > I have been watching the demonstration on these pages:
> > http://dougengelbart.org/content/vie= w/216/000/#Augment
> >
> > and videos by Christina Engelbart,
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=3DPLCGFadV4FqU15vunAfsTDzeEPnHDaf7n0&am= p;v=3DSTRuciV6L38
> >
> > Org mode look similar to that Augment browser, definitely. With > > differences. But it looks as nice information management system.<= br> > >
> > It would be good that Org mode gets some kind of buttons follow t= he
> > mouse feature upon turning it on, just as shown on this video: > > https://vimeo.com/81238285
> >
>
> I think (require 'org-mouse) provides lots of mouse support for > opening/closing outlines, checking/unchecking checkboxes, etc.

I have tried it, but it does not turn on at all times. Documentation
is vague. It is unclear how should it turn on.

Jean
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