From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 08:43:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r3py5b8f.fsf@posteo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113406ea9a4f750517600d91 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz2aE-0007t8-RS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 08:43:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz2aD-0005c4-BO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 08:43:18 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22d]:36234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz2aC-0005bw-Vm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 08:43:17 -0400 Received: by pdjm12 with SMTP id m12so4898863pdj.3 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 05:43:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Xebar Saram Cc: org mode , Titus von der Malsburg --001a113406ea9a4f750517600d91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Org-ref also has some customizable formatting. It is pretty basic but customizable. On Sunday, May 31, 2015, Xebar Saram wrote: > Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate this > further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :) > > thanks again > > PS: Titus, do you think that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list > could be user customizable in the future? > > Z. > > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin > wrote: > >> >> >> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg > > wrote: >> >>> >>> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote: >>> > Hi all >>> > >>> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work t= o >>> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO >>> list...when >>> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my >>> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are: >>> >>> Author of helm-bibtex here. >>> >>> > 1. easy add references >>> >>> Helm-bibtex doesn=E2=80=99t deal with this because I prefer to edit my = BibTeX >>> file by hand. BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy an= d >>> I need to edit it anyway. It=E2=80=99s not too hard, though: I click o= n BibTeX >>> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix >>> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography. >>> >>> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing ne= w >>> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex. >> >> >> Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs >> from a doi or crossref query. >> >> >>> >>> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good >>> solution) >>> >>> That=E2=80=99s what helm-bibtex was written to solve. >>> >>> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered) >>> >>> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags. >>> >>> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references >>> in >>> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie Nature, Chicago etc) >>> >>> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can se= e >>> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn=E2=80=99t be hard to add s= upport >>> for that. >>> >>> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to >>> > go? >>> >>> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex >>> >>> Titus >>> >>> >> >> -- >> John >> >> ----------------------------------- >> Professor John Kitchin >> Doherty Hall A207F >> Department of Chemical Engineering >> Carnegie Mellon University >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213 >> 412-268-7803 >> @johnkitchin >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu >> >> >> > --=20 John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu --001a113406ea9a4f750517600d91 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Org-ref also has some customizable formatting. It is pretty basic but custo= mizable.=C2=A0

On Sunday, May 31, 2015, Xebar Saram <= ;zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thanks so much everyone for = these great replies. i will investigate this further today and let everyone= know how im going with my transition :)

thanks aga= in

PS: Titus, do you think =C2=A0that the helm-bib= tex APA style reference list could be user customizable in the future?

Z.

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>= wrote:


On Saturday,= May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@po= steo.de> wrote:

On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
> Hi all
>
> i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to=
> manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO list..= .when
> (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my<= br> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:

Author of helm-bibtex here.

> 1. easy add references

Helm-bibtex doesn=E2=80=99t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibT= eX
file by hand.=C2=A0 BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy a= nd
I need to edit it anyway.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s not too hard, though: I click = on BibTeX
export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.

However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.

Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and d= ownload PDFs from a doi or crossref query.=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0

> 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good sol= ution)

That=E2=80=99s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.

> 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)

In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.

> 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references = in
> word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie=C2=A0 Nature, Chicago etc= )

helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn=E2=80=99t be hard to add suppo= rt
for that.

> anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to > go?

For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex

=C2=A0 Titus



--
John

-----------------------------= ------
Professor John Kitchin=C2=A0
Doherty Hall A207F
Department = of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 152= 13
412-268-7803




--
John
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Professor John Kitchin=C2=A0
= Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon= University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803

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