From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: References: simplifying org mode usage for Bibtex files Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 16:06:10 -0800 Message-ID: References: <83tvy8s2cb.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1145aa74d00404055d4538c2" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eBUve-0000aM-1M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:06:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eBUvc-0004lf-Lh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:06:14 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]:55863) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eBUvc-0004ka-CW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:06:12 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id y83so10859067wmc.4 for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2017 16:06:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83tvy8s2cb.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: lngndvs@gmail.com Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --001a1145aa74d00404055d4538c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" You might look into the lentic package. It might be possible to view a bib file in two views, one in Bibtex mode for the entries, and one in org-mode for the comments. In the bibtex view, the org narrative would be in comment form, and in the org view the bibtex entries would be in source blocks. I have not used lentic extensively, and haven't had much luck lately using it but it seems to be made for the kind of purpose you describe. John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:00 PM, wrote: > My need is for a simple work flow/usage of Orgmode to annotate and > organize existing BibTex *.bib files. I have mentioned on this list > that I had found Cb2Bib to work extremely well for, so to speak, > harvesting references from Google Scholar. In fact, Pere Constans, > developer of Cb2Bib, recently helped me to streamline this usage to > allow the use of the "Annotation" field, and I have also worked out a > way to output and print a pdf with this field using Cb2Bib's bib2pdf > utility. I use this as a basis for library research. > > However, I have a wide range of such references in each file, over > dozens of topics, and I would like to incorporate by some means an > ability to include org-mode subheadings with maybe tags, so enable the > citations to be more easily sorted. > > I do not need to have automatic selection for a bibliography in the > output, or automatic insertion of citations, at this point. > > I have asked this question on this list, and studied from time to time > the solutions for using org-mode with bibtex, and visa-versa. I don't > really have the time or inclination to learn these. > > I remember that in BibTeX documentation, was mention that almost > anything outside of the individual records could serve as a comment. > This is more or less what I have in mind. > > I would appreciate hearing from anyone who use such a simple approach. > It would be most convenient if it were not necessary to change the > extension of the *.bib files; I used to do this, but the extra steps > for each reference was exhausting. > > Thank you for any ideas, > > Alan Davis > > > > > --001a1145aa74d00404055d4538c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You might look into the lentic package. It might be possib= le to view a bib file in two views, one in Bibtex mode for the entries, and= one in org-mode for the comments. In the bibtex view, the org narrative wo= uld be in comment form, and in the org view the bibtex entries would be in = source blocks.=C2=A0

I have not used lentic extensively,= and haven't had much luck lately using it but it seems to be made for = the kind of purpose you describe.



John

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Professor John = Kitchin=C2=A0
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical EngineeringCarnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
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http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu


On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:00 PM, <lngndvs= @gmail.com> wrote:
My need = is for a simple work flow/usage of Orgmode to annotate and
organize existing BibTex *.bib files.=C2=A0 I have mentioned on this list that I had found Cb2Bib to work extremely well for, so to speak,
harvesting references from Google Scholar.=C2=A0 In fact, Pere Constans, developer of Cb2Bib, recently helped me to streamline this usage to
allow the use of the "Annotation" field, and I have also worked o= ut a
way to output and print a pdf with this field using Cb2Bib's bib2pdf utility.=C2=A0 I use this as a basis for library research.

However, I have a wide range of such references in each file, over
dozens of topics, and I would like to incorporate by some means an
ability to include org-mode subheadings with maybe tags, so enable the
citations to be more easily sorted.

I do not need to have automatic selection for a bibliography in the
output, or automatic insertion of citations, at this point.

I have asked this question on this list, and studied from time to time
the solutions for using org-mode with bibtex, and visa-versa.=C2=A0 I don&#= 39;t
really have the time or inclination to learn=C2=A0 these.

I remember=C2=A0 that=C2=A0 in BibTeX documentation, was mention that almos= t
anything outside of the individual records could serve as a comment.
This is more or less what I have in mind.

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who use such a simple approach.
It would be most convenient if it were not necessary to change the
extension of the *.bib files; I used to do this, but the extra steps
for each reference was exhausting.

Thank you for any ideas,

Alan Davis





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