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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=MDuP9mSE; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: XXrtGq66Td0s Hi Bastien, Just remembered I haven't addressed everything you mentioned here. Bastien wrote: > Also, let's remove the mini-unicorn in the top bar, it is redundant > and reminds me of the opening of IT Crowd. Ah yes, I see the resemblance :P I'm not sure this is a good idea though, as while this can be seen as redundant on the homepage, the navbar is used on every page. Considering that this is a site to help people learn about Org, I think that the visual consistency of having it on every page, and how that helps reinforce the association between Org and that logo is worth it. Having it regularly appear should help it stick. > - I believe there are too many pages: I'd love the website to be just > one HTML page. Rich contents should go to Worg and yes, we need to > upgrade Worg's design too. Let's try moving such contents to Worg as > soon as we can -- but this is not a blocker for the switch. I think a single page might be a bit further than ideal, as I see it a 'core' of static pages for orgmode.org would be - index/homepage - features - quickstart - install How does that sound to you? Of course, all of this migration to Worg can happen after an iniIal switch. > - For the manual, I'd prefer to use the same design that the one used > on the gnu.org website: This is quite easy (and not actually part of this branch), I think we just need to pass --css-ref "https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual.css" to the makeinfo/texi2any/texi2html command in https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/doc/Makefile All the best, Timothy.