From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rainer M Krug Subject: Re: Suggestion: Stackoverflow for Orgmode Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:53:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: <81livt1e3c.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163683181a3022a304a8808e48 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjXDb-0005KM-KU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:53:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjXDJ-0003Lo-Mc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:53:35 -0400 Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:58897) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjXDH-0003L4-Hv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:53:25 -0400 Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26so179410qwa.0 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:53:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Thomas Renkert Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --00163683181a3022a304a8808e48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Thomas Renkert < tunnelblick@quantentunnel.de> wrote: > Jambunathan K gmail.com> writes: > > > > > The biggest diasadvantage would be fragmentation of information. > > > > All information needs to have authoritative sources and archives. I > > believe the info manual, GNU mailing list and the Orgmode.org domain (of > > which Worg is but a part) are the right place for such archival > > references. > > Sure. But reading the manual from a to z or searching the mailing list for > the > right line of elisp is sometimes very slow if you need a quick solution. I > am by > no means suggesting that we should give up the established ways of > archiving > information or discussion, though. > > I simply think that something like "ask.orgmode.org" with a > stackexchange-like > interface could be very helpful for a larger portion of users. > > It may happen that redundant information is produced by this idea but I > think it > will make orgmode more usable and less intimidating for new users. > Something > similar has happened before: the orgguide was Carsten's solution for the > complex > 200+ pages of the original manual. > > Besides I find that useful information is already pretty much fragmented > across > the threads of this mailing list (there is also a lot of bugfixing, > regression > reports and feature request going on). > > Sure, the knowledge is there somewhere but it would be nice to see what > works > and what is useful without having to try everything for yourself. > > > > > I don't think anyone would object to having a secondary marketplace for > > trading of orgmode related tips and tricks. > > > My question is if anyone on this list would actively participate to get it > off > the ground. And I think that hosting it on the orgmode.org-server would > make a > lot of sense. > > Is somebody here interested in starting this? > > > Not starting - but I think it is a really good idea. Nothing against worg (an absolutely fantastic resource) - but I consider the way that worg is edited as more static then a dynamic FAQ page, which this would result in if I understand correctly. I would definitely add to it. I agree that this should not replace any of the great resources of org, but it could supplement as a more dynamic format then worg, but more structured then a mailing list. Cheers, Rainer -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax (F): +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: Rainer@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug --00163683181a3022a304a8808e48 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Thomas = Renkert <tunnelblick@quantentunnel.de> wrote:
Jambunathan K <kjambunathan <at> gmail.com> writes:

>
> The biggest diasadvantage would be fragmentation of information.
>
> All information needs to have authoritative sources and archives. I > believe the info manual, GNU mailing list and the Orgmode.org domain (= of
> which Worg is but a part) are the right place for such archival
> references.

Sure. But reading the manual from a to z or searching the mailing lis= t for the
right line of elisp is sometimes very slow if you need a quick solution. I = am by
no means suggesting that we should give up the established ways of archivin= g
information or discussion, though.

I simply think that something like "ask.orgmode.org" with a stackexchange-like
interface could be very helpful for a larger portion of users.

It may happen that redundant information is produced by this idea but I thi= nk it
will make orgmode more usable and less intimidating for new users. Somethin= g
similar has happened before: the orgguide was Carsten's solution for th= e complex
200+ pages of the original manual.

Besides I find that useful information is already pretty much fragmented ac= ross
the threads of this mailing list (there is also a lot of bugfixing, regress= ion
reports and feature request going on).

Sure, the knowledge is there somewhere but it would be nice to see what wor= ks
and what is useful without having to try everything for yourself.



> I don't think anyone would object to having a secondary marketplac= e for
> trading of orgmode related tips and tricks.


My question is if anyone on this list would actively participate to g= et it off
the ground. And I think that hosting it on the orgmode.org-server would mak= e a
lot of sense.

Is somebody here interested in starting this?



Not starting - but I think it is a rea= lly good idea.=A0
Nothing against worg (an absolutely fantastic r= esource) - but I consider the way that worg is edited as more static then a= dynamic FAQ page, which this would result in if I understand correctly.

I would definitely add to it. I agree that this should = not replace any of the great resources of org, but it could supplement as a= more dynamic format then worg, but more structured then a mailing list.=A0=

Cheers,

Rainer

--
Rai= ner M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UC= T), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology<= br> Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel : =A0 =A0 =A0 +33 - (0)9= 53 10 27 44
Cell: =A0 =A0 =A0 +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F): =A0 = =A0 =A0 +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D): =A0 =A0+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 2= 2 44

email: =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer@krugs.de

Skype: =A0 =A0 =A0RMkrug

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