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From: Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com>
To: Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
Cc: Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>,
	"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: refine org-babel-tangle-jump-to-org?
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 17:38:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGhLh6FwOJfVv8B6N25o4XSQYNGK-HwftAkvoRjJ7BCBqyJ7Sw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Friday, June 7, 2013, Eric Schulte wrote:

> Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de <javascript:;>> writes:
>
> > Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de <javascript:;>> writes:
> >
> >> Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com <javascript:;>> writes:
> >>
> > [snip (46 lines)]
> >
> >>> For now I think both padlines and link comments are required for the
> >>> jumping functionality to work.  I've updated the documentation to
> >>> reflect this.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks - I will change it accordingly.
> >
> > I just discovered, that I have a problem with the setting of
> > org-src-preserve-indentation, as I am using org to write a package, and
> > I have put DESCRIPTION into the org file (as fundamental). If I have
> > org-src-preserve-indentation set to t, the lines start with two spaces
> > ("  ") which causes an error in reading the files.
> >
>
> Couldn't you just not indent these code blocks.  E.g., change
>
> #+begin_src R
>   Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Donec
>   hendrerit tempor tellus. Donec pretium posuere tellus. Proin quam
>   nisl, tincidunt et, mattis eget, convallis nec, purus. Cum sociis
>   natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus
>   mus. Nulla posuere. Donec vitae dolor. Nullam tristique diam non
>   turpis. Cras placerat accumsan nulla. Nullam rutrum. Nam vestibulum
>   accumsan nisl.
> #+end_src
>
>
Ah - makes sense. Haven't looked at that yet. Should be possible. If it
doesn't work I'll come back to you on Monday.


> to
>
> #+begin_src R
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Donec
> hendrerit tempor tellus. Donec pretium posuere tellus. Proin quam
> nisl, tincidunt et, mattis eget, convallis nec, purus. Cum sociis
> natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus
> mus. Nulla posuere. Donec vitae dolor. Nullam tristique diam non
> turpis. Cras placerat accumsan nulla. Nullam rutrum. Nam vestibulum
> accumsan nisl.
> #+end_src
>
> >
> > I can disable padlines for these source blocks, which is no problem, but
> > I think I can't change the setting for
> > org-src-preserve-indentation for a single block.
> >
>
> This is tricky because the indentation is separate from and predates
> Babel, so there is no obvious straightforward way to coerce this into a
> header argument.
>
>
Ok - if it is just the case of not indenting in the source block, then it
is not necessary to change it.


> >
> > Would it be possible to have this option as a header argument, so that I
> > can change it for certain blocks?
> >
> > The same problem is for the local file arguments: they must not be in
> > the DESCRIPTION and NAMESPACE file.
> >
>
> Alright, I think you've convinced me that it could be worthwhile to add
> header arguments to support file local variables and read modes in
> tangled files.  I don't have the time to implement and document these
> new header arguments, but the code should not be too difficult if anyone
> else wants to take a shot at it.
>
>
Thanks - that's brilliant.


> In the mean time I'd adjust your hook to wrap the addition of the file
> local variable in something like
>
>     ;; -*- emacs-lisp -*-
>     (unless (or (string= (buffer-file-name) "DESCRIPTION")
>                 (string= (buffer-file-name) "NAMESPACE"))
>       ;; file local var code goes here
>       )


That is an option. I'll change it accordingly.


>
> >
> > I could use sed or similar to adjust these files, but I would rather
> > prefer to
> > a) be able to have org-src-preserve-indentation for tangling as a header
> > argument
> > b) a variable in which I can specify in which tangled files should have
> > the local variables included.
> >
> > By the way, the post-tangle-hook approach works, but it has the
> > disadvantage, that each file needs to be written twice - in the mini
> > buffer, each tangled file is shown twice. As one org file contains
> > several (>10) tangles output files, this adds to the time needed for
> > tangling.
> >
>
> Agreed, for file modes and maybe local vars special header arguments
> would be nice, maybe called tangle-mode and tangle-file-vars or
> something.


tangle-add-vars should be perfect. This could be a list of variables with
their values and also modes (read-only, auto-revert comes to mind). One
could split it though in two, I.e. an additional tangle-mode for modes, but
one tangle-add-vars should be fine.

Thanks a lot for all this, as it makes the integration of org, ESA and R
much better. I'll see that I write up some how to for package development
from org based on this.

Cheers and have a nice weekend,

Rainer


>
> Best,
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rainer
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Rainer
> >>
> >> [snip (16 lines)]
> >>
> >> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Eric Schulte
> http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
>


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      reply	other threads:[~2013-06-07 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-30 14:54 refine org-babel-tangle-jump-to-org? Rainer M. Krug
2013-05-30 22:05 ` Eric Schulte
2013-05-31  7:35   ` Rainer M. Krug
2013-05-31 13:16     ` Eric Schulte
2013-06-03  9:32       ` Rainer M Krug
2013-06-03 13:34         ` Other question concerning org-babel-tangle-jump-to-org Rainer M Krug
2013-06-04  8:33           ` Julian M. Burgos
2013-06-04  8:39             ` Rainer M Krug
2013-06-05 16:10               ` Julian M. Burgos
2013-06-06 15:13           ` Eric Schulte
2013-06-07  7:27             ` Rainer M Krug
2013-06-06 15:06         ` refine org-babel-tangle-jump-to-org? Eric Schulte
2013-06-07  8:26           ` Rainer M Krug
2013-06-07 12:29             ` Rainer M Krug
2013-06-07 15:24               ` Eric Schulte
2013-06-07 15:38                 ` Rainer M Krug [this message]

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