From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Diego Zamboni Subject: Re: customizing Org for legibility Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 14:19:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006a822b059d6f6e78" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53116) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ixWDO-0005Il-9y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 08:20:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ixWDM-0000WR-Ur for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 08:20:06 -0500 Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::333]:52232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ixWDM-0000VK-F5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 08:20:04 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id p9so7866363wmc.2 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 05:20:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Texas Cyberthal Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --0000000000006a822b059d6f6e78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I think it's a noble effort to popularize org-mode and to make it easier to use. And I learned today about mixed-pitch :) However, a lot of visual configuration depends on fonts, colors, and other things which may vary a lot between users. While most of us by now probably use a graphical version of Emacs, any such default settings should be done with care for users who still use Emacs on a pure-text interface. Making some default prettification as part of Spacemacs's org-mode layer would be nice, since it includes a lot of customization and eye candy already. In case it's of use or for reference, I wrote a "Beautifying org-mode" blog post some time ago: https://zzamboni.org/post/beautifying-org-mode-in-emacs/ (the corresponding section of my config file is here: https://github.com/zzamboni/dot-emacs/blob/master/init.org#beautifying-org-mode ) All the best, --Diego On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:35 AM Texas Cyberthal wrote: > I aim to popularize Spacemacs as a personal info manager. Next task is > the Org configuration layer. > > As preparation, I wrote a post critiquing Org's out-of-the-box > legibility. I believe a default configuration should cater to > beginners, since they're least likely to know how to customize. On the > other hand, maybe a package should set defaults to the median user and > leave beginner intake to distributions. > > Along the way, I discovered mixed-pitch, which fixed most of my > complaint. It's quite obscure. I'd like to include it in Spacemacs' > Org layer. > > I'm sharing my thoughts to see whether I'm missing anything else. > > https://cyberthal-ghost.nfshost.com/configuring-org-for-readable-prose-is-too-complicated/ > > --0000000000006a822b059d6f6e78 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi= ,

I think it's a noble effort to p= opularize org-mode and to make it easier to use. And I learned today about = mixed-pitch :)

However, a lot of visual configuration de= pends on fonts, colors, and other things which may vary a lot between users= . While most of us by now probably use a graphical version of Emacs, any su= ch default settings should be done with care for users who still use Emacs = on a pure-text interface.

Making some default pret= tification as part of Spacemacs's org-mode layer would be nice, since i= t includes a lot of customization and eye candy already.

In case it's of use or for reference, I wrote a "Beaut= ifying org-mode" blog post some time ago: https://zzamboni.org/post/beautify= ing-org-mode-in-emacs/

(the corresponding sect= ion of my config file is here:=C2=A0https://github.com/zza= mboni/dot-emacs/blob/master/init.org#beautifying-org-mode)

All the best,
--Diego


On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:35= AM Texas Cyberthal <texas.= cyberthal@gmail.com> wrote:
I aim to popularize Spacemacs as a personal info manager= . Next task is
the Org configuration layer.

As preparation, I wrote a post critiquing Org's out-of-the-box
legibility. I believe a default configuration should cater to
beginners, since they're least likely to know how to customize. On the<= br> other hand, maybe a package should set defaults to the median user and
leave beginner intake to distributions.

Along the way, I discovered mixed-pitch, which fixed most of my
complaint. It's quite obscure. I'd like to include it in Spacemacs&= #39;
Org layer.

I'm sharing my thoughts to see whether I'm missing anything else. https://cy= berthal-ghost.nfshost.com/configuring-org-for-readable-prose-is-too-complic= ated/

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