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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Kyle Meyer , orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.57 Authentication-Results: aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=zzamboni-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=fxJyiPYk; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 05A5C21023 X-Spam-Score: -2.57 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: THUKqjTcvPZv --0000000000008011f105bbdddd31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juan Manuel, YMMV depending on your needs and habits, but another workaround for this problem would be to use visual-line-mode instead of filling paragraphs. --Diego On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 8:34 PM Juan Manuel Mac=C3=ADas wrote: > Kyle Meyer writes: > > > It seems that your approach would do a good job of helping you catch > > cases that you don't want to be treated as lists. I'm not aware of any > > related functionality in Org, so I don't think you're missing something > > there. > > > > Once you know that there is a particular spot that you want to prevent > > from being interpreted as a list, you could add a zero-width space in > > front of it: > > > > (info "(org)Escape Character") > > > > I'm not sure if that's the sort of solution you're asking for, though. > > Thanks for your advice, Kyle. Adding the U+200B char. works fine to > avoid false positives. Anyway, like Tim Cross says, that situation > maybe should be considered as a bug. I think the ideal behavior would > be for Org to consider a list only when there is a blank line above. > But, well thought out, I am afraid that it would not prevent false > positives, as one may want perfectly write a list at the beginning of > the document, or start a plain paragraph with (for example) a digit + a > period + a space... > > Best regards, > > Juan Manuel > > --0000000000008011f105bbdddd31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Juan Manuel,

YMMV depending on yo= ur needs and habits, but another workaround for this problem would be to us= e visual-line-mode instead of filling paragraphs.

--Dieg= o




On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at= 8:34 PM Juan Manuel Mac=C3=ADas <maciaschain@posteo.net> wrote:
Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:

> It seems that your approach would do a good job of helping you catch > cases that you don't want to be treated as lists.=C2=A0 I'm no= t aware of any
> related functionality in Org, so I don't think you're missing = something
> there.
>
> Once you know that there is a particular spot that you want to prevent=
> from being interpreted as a list, you could add a zero-width space in<= br> > front of it:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(info "(org)Escape Character")
>
> I'm not sure if that's the sort of solution you're asking = for, though.

Thanks for your advice, Kyle. Adding the U+200B char. works fine to
avoid false positives. Anyway, like Tim Cross says, that situation
maybe should be considered as a bug. I think the ideal behavior would
be for Org to consider a list only when there is a blank line above.
But, well thought out, I am afraid that it would not prevent false
positives, as one may want perfectly write a list at the beginning of
the document, or start a plain paragraph with (for example) a digit + a
period + a space...

Best regards,

Juan Manuel

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