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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -6.63 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1A4185D292 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.63 X-TUID: d4r8mOTNipKG Dear Org-mode maintainers, Org-mode has been fantastic. However, in the most recent release as part of emacs 29.1, I am experiencing an inconvenience that made me switch back to 28.3. (I learned from this page https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10982 that emacs 29.1 released org-mode 9.6). The issue is: let's say I have a simple org-mode file, and let's say the cursor starts at the top of the file (marked by '|'): |* Sec1 ** SubSec1 ** SubSec2 In 28.3 and before, when I do `M->`, and hit 'Enter', I get to the end of file on a new line outside of SubSec2, like so: * Sec1 ** SubSec1 ** SubSec2 | And now I could type `** SubSec3` to add a new section like below: * Sec1 ** SubSec1 ** SubSec2 ** SubSec3| But in 29.1, when I do the same sequence, the cursor is "trapped" in SubSec2, and I had to expand SubSec2 first in order to see what I'm typing. I don't like this behavior -- I wonder why it is this way in the new version. How is this better? Could we revert back? Now, you could argue that I should type in the keybinding for inserting the subsection instead of doing this manually. But I simply don't remember (and never tried remembering) the keybinding for adding a new section -- I don't think I'm wrong by not remembering that keybinding. I was able to do what I wanted before in a simple and natural way. I hope my concern is valid. Best, Kaiyu