From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "briangpowell ." Subject: Re: org-ref video Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 21:15:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <877fk5rg1r.fsf@pierrot.dokosmarshall.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011615bc92177705279b692e Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54181) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBvRC-0001Ow-NO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 21:15:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBvRB-0003Hm-2m for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 21:15:30 -0500 Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]:34013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBvRA-0003HJ-R5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 21:15:29 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id iw8so176458879obc.1 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 18:15:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <877fk5rg1r.fsf@pierrot.dokosmarshall.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Nick Dokos Cc: emacs-orgmode --089e011615bc92177705279b692e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I believe I read how to correctly pronounce LaTeX as Lay-Teck (and why its important--to honor the creator of TeX's wishes+intentions, Donald Knuth) in Leslie Lamport's book on LaTeX--in the preface. And when you think about it, pronouncing it as "Lay" does make sense "La" only means "the" in some romance Languages and the "L" and "A" don't stand for anything in particular either--LA isn't an acronym--and it has no "foreign language" meaning. Its not "The TeX"--TeX is "The TeX"--the lowest primal language itself, programmed in C. As for any relationship to Latex in paint or whatever; well, that's patently absurd. And its important for newbies to realize especially--before even using LaTeX--that LaTeX is a macro language and any newbie can program directly in TeX, create their own macro language--built on top of TeX too--and/or that they themselves can program in TeX and extend the language and embed it into LaTeX by creating libraries, style .sty files, etc. But I must say, of all the videos I've ever seen, I believe Dr. Kitchin has produced the most well-pronounced and clearly spoken ones ever--not just on Emacs, etc. Thanks again. Thanks Nick for the link: This reminds me of a strange and hilarious job interview I had long ago, when LaTeX wasn't fully well-known as a computerized typesetting packaged (used to publish more books on higher math than any other system). The interviewers asked what my "favorite computer software is"--well I smiled and said "Lay-Tecks"--this conjured up smirks, giggles and a wink or two--they thought I was into some other "favorite activities"--they obviously thought I was into latex clothing, etc. Not quickly realizing it, I went on: "Oh yes, I use it a lot, I use it as much as possible--I'm way into it; and, the whole free [soft-wear] community--I'd have to say I've been part of the community for many years." Obviously, people that don't know EXACTLY what you're talking about, can lead themselves to many very strange conclusions about you. So, such things can be very important indeed. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Nick Dokos wrote: > John Kitchin writes: > > > Thanks! > > > > You might add your interpretation of the pronunciation here: > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/17502/what-is-the-correct-pronunciation-of-tex-and-latex > ;) > > > > John > > > > The vexing issue of how to pronounce "LaTeX" has reared its ugly head > before, e.g in this thread on the comp.text.tex group ca 1999: > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.text.tex/Robin$20Fairbairns$20rubber/comp.text.tex/Ts9l6CPcjCk/g_89W2rJsPcJ > > with the entertaining subject "anyone have a source of all rubber > panties". I would recommend that you read the whole thread but in any > case don't give up until you read Robin Fairbairns's followup to his > (Robin's) suggestion that the OP should read the FAQ. > > How's that for a Christmas present? > -- > Nick > > > --089e011615bc92177705279b692e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I believe I read how to correctly pronounce LaTeX as Lay-T= eck (and why its important--to honor the creator of TeX's wishes+intent= ions, Donald Knuth) in Leslie Lamport's book on LaTeX--in the preface.<= div>
And when you think about it, pronouncing it as "Lay= " does make sense "La" only means "the" in some ro= mance Languages and the "L" and "A" don't stand for= anything in particular either--LA isn't an acronym--and it has no &quo= t;foreign language" meaning.=C2=A0 Its not "The TeX"--TeX is= "The TeX"--the lowest primal language itself, programmed in C.

As for any relationship to Latex in paint or whatev= er; well, that's patently absurd.

And its impo= rtant for newbies to realize especially--before even using LaTeX--that LaTe= X is a macro language and any newbie can program directly in TeX, create th= eir own macro language--built on top of TeX too--and/or that they themselve= s can program in TeX and extend the language and embed it into LaTeX by cre= ating libraries, style .sty files, etc.

But I must= say, of all the videos I've ever seen, I believe Dr. Kitchin has produ= ced the most well-pronounced and clearly spoken ones ever--not just on Emac= s, etc.=C2=A0 Thanks again.


Thanks = Nick for the link: This reminds me of a strange and hilarious job interview= I had long ago, when LaTeX wasn't fully well-known as a computerized t= ypesetting packaged (used to publish more books on higher math than any oth= er system).

The interviewers asked what my "f= avorite computer software is"--well I smiled and said "Lay-Tecks&= quot;--this conjured up smirks, giggles and a wink or two--they thought I w= as into some other "favorite activities"--they obviously thought = I was into latex clothing, etc.=C2=A0 Not quickly realizing it, I went on: = "Oh yes, I use it a lot, I use it as much as possible--I'm way int= o it; and, the whole free [soft-wear] community--I'd have to say I'= ve been part of the community for many years."

Obviously, people that don't know EXACTLY what you're talking abo= ut, can lead themselves to many very strange conclusions about you.=C2=A0 S= o, such things can be very important indeed.


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On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 = at 10:37 PM, Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> wrote:
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> Thanks!=C2=A0
>
> You might add your interpretation of the pronunciation here:=C2=A0http://te= x.stackexchange.com/questions/17502/what-is-the-correct-pronunciation-of-te= x-and-latex ;)
>
> John
>

The vexing issue of how to pronounce "LaTeX" has reared it= s ugly head
before, e.g in this thread on the comp.text.tex group ca 1999:

=C2=A0 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/co= mp.text.tex/Robin$20Fairbairns$20rubber/comp.text.tex/Ts9l6CPcjCk/g_89W2rJs= PcJ

with the entertaining subject "anyone have a source of all rubber
panties".=C2=A0 I would recommend that you read the whole thread but i= n any
case don't give up until you read Robin Fairbairns's followup to hi= s
(Robin's) suggestion that the OP should read the FAQ.

How's that for a Christmas present?
--
Nick



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