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From: "briangpowell ." <briangpowellms@gmail.com>
To: Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com>
Cc: "Berry, Charles" <ccberry@health.ucsd.edu>,
	Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: R session and plotting in x11 window
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:36:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFm0skGQj48X6KeStqKBP4XMg5RaoXHfxGrw4=YbtYuQurn8Rw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN_Dec-YBMk2uonj+0+dOwOkNec3U1T9q_txZo0KX1OF31ub5A@mail.gmail.com>

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"I also don't understand why it would be set to X11 in a plain-old R

R is an open source derivative of S and S-PLUS--"S" was the "Statistics

MIT X Consortium's "X Motif" is the default output of R from its inception

R, S, S-PLUS have always made such output as its default

Suggest you just "get with the program"--thousands of R libraries are ready
for you to use, extend and create your own libraries if you like--all
leveraging the power of X11R6 --i.e. the XWindows system:

By the way Micro$oft Windows is based on MIT's W--W stood for Windows--yet
another thing MicroSoft swiped and monopolized and then sued others about
whenever possible--rather than join the open source & free software movement

X11 is free & open source--all the best software is free & open
source--like Emacs Org-Mode

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:27 PM Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:19 PM Berry, Charles <ccberry@health.ucsd.edu>
> wrote:
>> > On Apr 4, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone know much about the difference between an R session opened
>> by typing M-x R, and the R session opened by org-babel?
>> Short answer: almost none.
>> Long answer: what `org-babel-R-initite-session' and friends do.
> :-) thanks, I should have been looking for that
>> >
>> > I'm just learning R and my usual method for learning a language is to
>> keep a kind of notebook in org with code snippets they I can execute and
>> iterate on rapidly as I learn. This works great in R when I'm just doing
>> math.  When I am working on plots, it would be nice to have them open up
>> quickly either in emacs or in the standard x11 window that R session opened
>> switch M-x R opens up.
>> >
>> > I know I can set the src block headers to produ e a file, but when I'm
>> just iterating rapidly I often switch back and forth between a data output
>> and a graphical output, and typing/erasing those headers is clunky and
>> slow. It would be easier to just paste the plot command into the console
>> and have it pop open the window... But that doesn't seem to work. Anyone
>> know if I can tweak something to make that possible?
>> >
>> I sam really puzzled by this. Do you have an ECM that illustrates this?
>> Working interactively on my Mac (Quartz - X11 is the device), I routinely
>> do what you describe - usually working from the src edit buffer - and the
>> plots are displayed (and older plots are available via clover-left or some
>> such).
>> If I had to guess, I'd say that you are opening an R session, but not
>> using it. If you execute a src block, but it does not have a `:session'
>> header, a new instance of R will create a plot file and then exit. If you
>> look in the default directory, you would see `Rplots.pdf' or some such.
>> The only other thing that comes to mind is that you opened a device that
>> is holding on to all your plots. Try `dev.cur()' in R immediately before
>> and after you create a plot and see what the result is.
>> This was the problem. I don't see that I'm calling dev.set() anywhere but
> when the session initiates dev.cur() returns
> null
>      1
> calling dev.set(1) or dev.set(2) launches an R_x11 window and future plots
> are displayed there.  As I say, I'm just learning R, and I don't really
> understand how the device is set up. I also don't understand why it would
> be set to X11 in a plain-old R session, but not in an org-babel R session.
> Most references to "device" in ~ob-R.el~ seem to be managing file outputs,
> and "X11". For now I don't think I'll explore  a proper solution as I'm
> already pretty far down a rabit hole just learning R at all!  But thanks
> very much for this workaround.
> Matt
>> HTH,
>> Chuck

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-07 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-04 23:27 R session and plotting in x11 window Matt Price
2020-04-05 17:19 ` Berry, Charles via General discussions about Org-mode.
2020-04-07  1:26   ` Matt Price
2020-04-07 11:36     ` briangpowell . [this message]
2020-04-07 17:37     ` Berry, Charles via General discussions about Org-mode.

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