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From: "briangpowell ." <briangpowellms@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Anyone use 3rd party search tools w/org-mode?
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 18:02:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFm0skFcZr8t-WfhxPA7qLkLFkxONi943BKfs4JEL0ovAuW5Kg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191112130131.GA28797@volibear>

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Emacs (shortened name from "Editor Macros") has the fastest Regular
Expression engine in the world--when you compare the engines that are
programmed to find and display character strings AS YOU TYPE THEM.

So, just hoping you keep that in mind: As far as editing documents and
searching documents and in some cases replacing strings, there is nothing
faster than Emacs and its native regular expression engine, which is built
for editing tasks--editing tasks that are especially related to and
programmed for searching strings and/or regular expressions as you type
them in

In many other ways, of course other engines are faster; but, not for
editing and searching and replacing tasks

And even when you talk about editing multi-gigabyte and even multi-terabyte
files--suggest you look into and try out vlf-mode (i.e. "Very Large File
Mode") for that, just for the fun and excitement of it, if for nothing else.

So, again, GNU Emacs is by far the world's most powerful editor, and it has
been for many, many years--there is no need for 3rd party tools, maybe
there's a need to investigate the "engines under the hood" and why they
work the way they do.

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 8:04 AM Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com>
wrote:

> To further explain my setup, I have three libraries of files Personal,
> Technical
> and Business. Personal is all personal data including Org files, Technical
> is
> all whitepapers and vendor documentation, and Business is Org projects and
> other
> matters. Recoll is used to search all of them.
>
> In my shell profile I have a few functions to access each library, and to
> file
> away new documents (ie: I downloaded a whitepaper, and just want to slap
> it into
> a unique directory in the library).
>
> #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
>   # For recoll and library
>   func _FileRecoll()  { DEST="$HOME/Library/$1/$(date +%Y/%m/%d)" ; mkdir
> -p $DEST ; mv -i "$2" $DEST ; }
>   func FileTech()     { _FileRecoll "Technical" "$1" ; }
>   func FilePersonal() { _FileRecoll "Personal"  "$1" ; }
>   func FileBiz()      { _FileRecoll "Business"  "$1" ; }
>
>   func recollt() { RECOLL_CONFDIR=~/Library/.recoll-Technical
> ~/scripts/recolltui.sh $@ ; }
>   func recollp() { RECOLL_CONFDIR=~/Library/.recoll-Personal
> ~/scripts/recolltui.sh $@ ; }
>   func recollb() { RECOLL_CONFDIR=~/Library/.recoll-Business
> ~/scripts/recolltui.sh $@ ; }
> #+END_EXAMPLE
>
> I have a daily cronjob to index those directories:
>
> #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
>   # Recoll
>   00 2  * * * /usr/bin/recollindex -c ${HOME}/Library/.recoll-Personal/
> >> "${HOME}/Library/.recoll-Personal/recollindex.log" 2>&1
>   00 3  * * * /usr/bin/recollindex -c ${HOME}/Library/.recoll-Technical/
> >> "${HOME}/Library/.recoll-Technical/recollindex.log" 2>&1
>   00 4  * * * /usr/bin/recollindex -c ${HOME}/Library/.recoll-Business/
> >> "${HOME}/Library/.recoll-Business/recollindex.log" 2>&1
> #+END_EXAMPLE
>
> Then I have a simple TUI shell script which wraps dialog around recoll's
> CLI. This puts the filename in my clip board for command line pasting, and
> opens
> PDFs in Firefox.
>
> #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
>   #!/bin/sh
>   # ~/scripts/recolltui.sh
>
>   # requires recollq optional cli binary to be present from recoll package
>   # uses base64, xsel, and dialog
>
>   DB=$(mktemp)
>   MENU=$(mktemp)
>   trap 'rm -f -- "${DB}" "${MENU}"' INT TERM HUP EXIT
>
>   # Make sure to customize RECOLL_CONFDIR (ie:
> ~/Library/.recoll-Technical) if needed
>
>   # query recoll, save the base64 output to $DB as 3 space separated
> columns: row #, title, url
>   recollq -e -F "title url" $@ 2>/dev/null | nl > $DB
>
>   # copy header into menu
>   head -n 2 $DB | while read num rest ; do
>       echo "= \"$rest\"" >> $MENU
>   done
>
>   # Convert results to dialog menu using row # and title + filename as
> list item
>   # skip first two lines of results, they are not base64
>   tail -n +3 $DB | while read num title url ; do
>       echo "$num \"$(echo "$title" | base64 -w0 -d ) : $(basename "$(echo
> "$url" | base64 -w0 -d | sed 's,file://,,g')")\"" >> $MENU
>   done
>
>   # ask the user which results to view
>   SEL=$(dialog --menu "Search results" 0 0 0 --file $MENU --stdout)
>
>   # if a choice was made, open the url in firefox AND copy it to the
> clipboard
>   [ $? -eq 0 ] && {
>       URL="$(awk "\$1 == $SEL  {print \$3}" $DB | base64 -w0 -d)"
>       echo "$URL" | sed 's,file://,,g' | xsel
>       firefox "$URL"
>   }
>
> #+END_EXAMPLE
>
> I've often thought that the dialog script could be easily replaced by an
> Emacs
> interface, but I haven't taken the time to try to write one.
>
> I've found that recoll's indexing in Xapian is excellent. I frequently can
> find
> my search terms in technical documentation very rapidly. The support of
> many
> file types makes it index well. I think my most frequent formats are text
> including Org, PDF, and DOC.
>
> I used to have a "Scrapbook" extension in Firefox which would instantly
> save a
> webpage being viewed into my Personal library. Unfortunately that isn't
> supported on modern Firefox versions so I need to find a replacement for
> that
> functionality.
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 12:34:29PM +0100, Roland Everaert wrote:
> > I had a quick look at the recoll and I notice that there is a python API
> > to update/create index.
> >
> > Maybe something could be developped using the python package recently
> > released by Karl Voit, to feed a recoll index with org data.
> >
> > Roland.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>
> PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
>
> Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-12 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-30 22:07 Anyone use 3rd party search tools w/org-mode? Nathan Neff
2019-10-30 22:17 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-31 15:42   ` Fraga, Eric
2019-10-31  1:09 ` John Kitchin
2019-11-06 16:02 ` Roland Everaert
2019-11-06 17:33   ` Russell Adams
2019-11-06 18:10   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-11-06 20:09     ` John Kitchin
2019-11-07 17:04       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-11-08 13:12         ` Roland Everaert
2019-11-08 13:28           ` John Kitchin
2019-11-08 13:51             ` Russell Adams
2019-11-08 14:21               ` Roland Everaert
2019-11-12 11:34                 ` Roland Everaert
2019-11-12 13:01                   ` Russell Adams
2019-11-12 23:02                     ` briangpowell . [this message]
2019-11-13  8:44                       ` Roland Everaert
2019-11-06 21:47     ` Adam Porter

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