From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: brian powell Subject: Re: The statement on what is orgmode. Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:38:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20121205222817.GA1243@panahar> <87hao06km3.fsf@pank.eu> <20121206032633.GA12314@panahar> <20121206230457.GA19292@panahar> <874njy93eh.fsf@gmail.com> <20121207010052.GB24269@panahar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444ece58fece704d03a1ddd Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgnq0-0008Pn-Ue for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:38:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgnpz-0000sd-1B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:38:52 -0500 Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.219.41]:44939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgnpy-0000sS-QY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:38:50 -0500 Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so26384oag.0 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:38:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121207010052.GB24269@panahar> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode --f46d0444ece58fece704d03a1ddd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > 6. Org-mode: It's difficult to say what exactly Emacs' Org-mode will > do for you; it's easier to list all things it doesn't do. Wow! Great thread. I was going to ask the question "what @isn't@ Emacs OrgMode"--and not in a trite way at all; in a serious way. Emacs is a mode-less (concurrent major modes and minor modes galore) and an infinitely extensible software tool. OrgMode is an amazing tool that enables Emacs users the ability to do a huge number of things, very simply and easily. (E)macs (M)akes (A)ll (C)omputing (S)imple. I often think: What are the "epistemological" limits of Emacs? What can't you do or find out in Emacs? Emacs has the fastest regexp engine (in the NFA and "first character descrimination" sense--p.197 MRE, Friedl, et. al) for some things. OrgMode's table interfaces with EmacsCalc--an extremely high-quality science and math tool. Seriously, you can do anything in/with Emacs; and, OrgMode works well in most all other major modes in Emacs. Remember the old icon symbol of Emacs--it literally is a picture of "kitchen sink"--because you can do "everything except the kitchen sink" in Emacs--and therefore OrgMode. So, again, seriously, this thread is misnamed. "What can't you do in Emacs/OrgMode?" What can't it be used for?--this should be the thread! I'd really like to know. Every week or two, something comes off my very tiny list, which is just about empty. Of course we all have computing limits of cpu and hard-drive space etc. so those hard limits will always be the bottleneck as to what Emacs and OrgMode can really be used for--buffers can only be so big. Theoretically there are no limits here except computing limits--"P vs. NP" is unproven--but P(space) is a hard limit. Like with so many other things in life; Emacs OrgMode is what you make of it. If I had to chose: I vote for #1 or something like: "Its your life [organized] in plain text." --f46d0444ece58fece704d03a1ddd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 6. Org-mode: It's difficult to say what exactly Emacs' Or= g-mode will
> do for you; it's easier to list all things i= t doesn't do.

Wow! Great thread.

I was going to ask the question "what @isn't@ Emacs= OrgMode"--and not in a trite way at all; in a serious way.
=
Emacs is a mode-less (concurrent major modes and minor modes= galore) and an infinitely extensible software tool.

OrgMode is an amazing tool that enables Emacs users the= ability to do a huge number of things, very simply and easily.
<= br>
(E)macs (M)akes (A)ll (C)omputing (S)imple.

I often think: What are the "epistemological" limits o= f Emacs? What can't you do or find out in Emacs?

Emacs has the fastest regexp engine (in the NFA and "first characte= r descrimination" sense--p.197 MRE, Friedl, et. al) for some things.

OrgMode's table interfaces with EmacsCalc--an extre= mely high-quality science and math tool.

Seriously= , you can do anything in/with Emacs; and, OrgMode works well in most all ot= her major modes in Emacs.

Remember the old icon symbol of Emacs--it literally is = a picture of "kitchen sink"--because you can do "everything = except the kitchen sink" in Emacs--and therefore OrgMode.

So, again, seriously, this thread is misnamed. =A0"What= can't you do in Emacs/OrgMode?" =A0What can't it be used for?= --this should be the thread!

I'd really like t= o know. =A0Every week or two, something comes off my very tiny list, which = is just about empty.

Of course we all have computing limits of cpu and hard-= drive space etc. so those hard limits will always be the bottleneck as to w= hat Emacs and OrgMode can really be used for--buffers can only be so big.

Theoretically there are no limits here except computing= limits--"P vs. NP" is unproven--but P(space) is a hard limit.

Like with so many other things in life; Emacs OrgMod= e is what you make of it.

If I had to chose: I vote for #1 or something like: &qu= ot;Its your life [organized] in plain text."

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