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I confirmed everything you said. My takeaway is that instead of using global properties as a single property at the top level, I should create a top-level properties drawer, which will have immediate usability. In the case of my example that would be: C-u C-c C-x d HOURLY_RATE 150 and then HOURLY_RATE is immediately usable in my table, without even having to save the file. On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 11:03 PM Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Jeff Trull writes: > > > Yes, I can make it work now - but only after reloading it at least one > time > > from disk. > > > > When I type it in for the first time, it doesn't work. I have to save, > then > > (revert-buffer). > > ... > > Also, if you change the value (say, from 150 to 210) the old value > persists > > until you > > reload the file. Even saving the file doesn't help. > > It is expected and documented. > See 17.8 Summary of In-Buffer Settings section of the manual. > Basically, you need to press C-c C-c on the property line to make Org > refresh the settings. > > Alternatively, you can use document property drawer. It is updated > automatically on the latest development version of Org. > > -- > Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, > Org mode contributor, > Learn more about Org mode at . > Support Org development at , > or support my work at > --00000000000062b7c805eb65c183 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, got it now, thanks! I confirmed everything you said.
My takeaway is that instead of using global properties as= a single property at the top level,
I should create a top-level = properties drawer, which will have immediate usability.

In the case of my example that would be:

C-u= C-c C-x d HOURLY_RATE <enter> 150 <enter>

=
and then HOURLY_RATE is immediately usable in my table, without even h= aving to save the file.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 11:03 PM Ihor Radchen= ko <yantar92@posteo.net> w= rote:
Jeff Trull= <edaskel@att.net> writes:

> Yes, I can make it work now - but only after reloading it at least one= time
> from disk.
>
> When I type it in for the first time, it doesn't work. I have to s= ave, then
> (revert-buffer).
> ...
> Also, if you change the value (say, from 150 to 210) the old value per= sists
> until you
> reload the file. Even saving the file doesn't help.

It is expected and documented.
See 17.8 Summary of In-Buffer Settings section of the manual.
Basically, you need to press C-c C-c on the property line to make Org
refresh the settings.

Alternatively, you can use document property drawer. It is updated
automatically on the latest development version of Org.

--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,=
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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