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From: Holger Hoefling <hhoeflin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Not overwriting unchanged source code files when tangling
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:32:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFDswJsq6zsDhJZQ-DLPfO6nuEY=waZBq9C7p-=ib1Og2rtiUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFDswJsb41CHj5Fpyq9kSNNU-i=G9bMJ_fTyOvxtfKKa1cAbMw@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi everyone,

I wanted to thank everyone for their helpful suggestions and wanted to
share the best solutions I heard of and found.

One solution is to include a rule in the makefile for every sourcecode file
that that copies it and only updates the copy if something has changed (see
Nick's email below).

Another one is the use of a non-standard make program like makepp, that
allows for using md5 checksums for files instead of timestamp in order to
derive which files have to be rebuild.

Thanks again!

Holger

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Holger Hoefling <hhoeflin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Nick,
>
> thank you very much. That sounds like a very good solution to my problem
> that does not require changes to org-mode.
>
> Best
>
> Holger
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
>
>> Holger Hoefling <hhoeflin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I think you misunderstood me there - I am actually not worried about how
>> > computationally intensive the tangling process is. This always works
>> very
>> > quickly, so even if they have to be copied around and take a bit
>> longer, I
>> > would not mind.
>> >
>>
>> Ah, ok - so you are talking about
>>
>>       tangle                    compile
>>   org -------> bunch of files -------------> output
>>
>> The tangling step produces a bunch of files that are (re)compiled (or in
>> any case require some sort of lengthy processing) to produce some output
>> file.
>>
>>
>> IMO, the best way to deal with it is still make: let's say
>>
>>     foo.org  ----> a.x b.x c.x ------> foo.out
>>
>> where the first arrow is the tangle and the second arrow is some
>> processor, call it X.
>> The standard way to set up a makefile is schematically:
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> foo.out: a.x b.x c.x
>>         X a.x b.c c.x -o foo.out
>>
>> a.x b.x c.x: foo.org
>>         tangle foo.org
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>>
>> Rewrite the make file as follows:
>>
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> foo.out: a.y b.y c.y
>>     X a.y b.y c.y -o foo.out
>>
>> a.y: a.x
>>     cmp --silent a.x a.y || cp a.x a.y
>>
>> b.y: b.x
>>     cmp --silent b.x b.y || cp b.x b.y
>>
>> c.y: c.x
>>     cmp --silent c.x c.y || cp c.x c.y
>>
>> a.x b.x c.x: foo.org
>>     tangle foo.org
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>>
>> So if the *contents* of (say) a.x have not changed by the tangling, it
>> compares
>> equal to a.y and the copy is skipped. That leaves a.y untouched.
>>
>> OTOH, if the contents of a.x change (or a.y does not exist in the first
>> place), the comparison fails and we copy a.x to a.y.  That updates a.y
>> and forces further updates on anything that depends on it.
>>
>> Using some make fu (works for GNU make, but not necessarily for other
>> makes),
>> you can write it more compactly:
>>
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> foo.out: a.y b.y c.y
>>     X a.y b.y c.y -o foo.out
>>
>> %.y: %.x
>>     -cmp --silent $< $@ || cp $< $@
>>
>> a.x b.x c.x: foo.org
>>     tangle foo.org
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> HTH,
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-19 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-18 13:17 Not overwriting unchanged source code files when tangling Holger Hoefling
2011-11-18 14:23 ` Brian Wightman
2011-11-18 16:46   ` Tom Prince
2011-11-18 17:14     ` Brian Wightman
2011-11-18 14:27 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-11-18 17:02 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-11-18 17:28   ` Brian Wightman
2011-11-18 19:42     ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-18 20:10       ` Achim Gratz
2011-11-18 20:24         ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-19  0:49       ` Holger Hoefling
2011-11-18 19:01   ` Holger Hoefling
2011-11-18 19:32     ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-19  0:51       ` Holger Hoefling
2011-11-19  4:00         ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-19  6:58           ` Holger Hoefling
2011-11-19 18:32             ` Holger Hoefling [this message]
2011-11-22 21:17               ` Allen S. Rout
2011-11-22 21:43                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-19 18:06     ` cberry
2011-11-18 19:51 ` Achim Gratz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-11-19 15:31 Rustom Mody
2011-11-19 15:51 ` Rustom Mody

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