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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620387576; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=zK4DIstw5VGanskZb6ixDjqWSLKlgQtV/nCkK7nVDW8=; b=EI7mR1NxiUUM0GjcmuSSoPh/BJUhKJv7HXOtIItUUI5FRVs9xcmooVG1GHkyOJdMg05n5Q gXcHQJF8CA3+WywF1XDQpz8ndmWCtYlrbEoLMe9zwz8YM4iIPpGYtbgjZDk0yYtOIFChL1 EHhDFbgZKdyRwBkJphyqcU49AGAPteWnZ/OJFFbZjJTEUKvx13iz9x08VgH9bwyWjZ847I 4DpOSVKrpdm8gidTmWgQyRxQer+o+pohLqgjNZEQ6GUgJWionF5YeW7vA0Rx2vkMxt18RU 0m+bMzjQhkEsolx4x8mgYyc9SAWQ7/4LKOc3yDFGOOQpGvYZ0PW0XBvlhmYX1g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620387576; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=UxSB9xqqgS+KKsBDKl0VbY8rT/P4lDXNDqSfyRdmI80ysfH8VY9m9eBRg0m3p/EGeGPdsU 0nkgycMcVchtCse/geJoxtkQ6demYZ8OvMyradzq/db5FYiqwPVl1k1IAgmsAvzmbwhf7k bcxbq1HZl08CEvYfFdAPzoJZjJYwcB2kdL2dTRuPXodwmcjqfznJWNqdG9jSfjHFHmtGES 73826aa+HWQZg0MGbA25pDvfeczhDwaaQlN8MFOjQd0KZzG7ipt6zLj7Gq5IV0bQOxB2KK L+NgzutNbn64F+A2hVqVP/LpBJAyEu6838dftvh14I9fQlrz7MBtASH27jSYOQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=oIye3rWW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.65 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=oIye3rWW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A4C7213116 X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: SjUKyFdgSrPx On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 8:37 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 8:11 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Did I say I don't like sub-styles already? :) > > What about a middle-ground, which would be a flat list of sub-styles, like: Thinking about it more, some of the intricacies are likely specific to author-date, and maybe note, styles. Maybe it's fine to drop them. There are pros and cons to each; sub-styles just moves some of the less-common variants there, so the style list can be simpler. With only styles, however, would probably want to add something like these, with their possible shortcuts: - Text (T) - text-full (tf) - Text-full (Tf) - alt (-) - may also need some alt variants; not sure ATM Also not sure if additional are needed for the other styles; a "caps" default? Bruce