I'm working on a select-style function for org-cite, where I am adding previews to the style list. Current screenshot, with the natbib mapping: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1134/126326341-15ec2046-bf34-411a-a7d8-f2cbe85769c3.png But to do that best and most consistently (next step is CSL, for example), I need the citation accessible from there, so I can run the export processors to generate the previews. Could we possibly tweak SELECT-STYLE to take one argument: citation? Or am I missing something? Bruce
Hello,
"Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes:
> But to do that best and most consistently (next step is CSL, for
> example), I need the citation accessible from there, so I can run the
> export processors to generate the previews.
>
> Could we possibly tweak SELECT-STYLE to take one argument: citation?
When you are inserting a whole new citation, what would be the value?
nil? What would you display then?
Regards,
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Nicolas Goaziou
Hi Nicolas, On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 3:28 PM Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes: > > > But to do that best and most consistently (next step is CSL, for > > example), I need the citation accessible from there, so I can run the > > export processors to generate the previews. > > > > Could we possibly tweak SELECT-STYLE to take one argument: citation? > > When you are inserting a whole new citation, what would be the value? > nil? What would you display then? The first iteration of the idea behind the request is this style selection UI: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1134/126531061-40cf47ab-0c7f-42ac-8ddb-341e7ab70d4b.png So the idea is to present a preview of the style/variant output when selecting the style. Like: / (Doe, 2019) ... or maybe even multiple columns: / (Doe, 2019) \citep I'm thinking the best way to build this UI is to iterate through org-cite-support-styles, and run at least the default export processes to create that preview annotation, As my thinking has evolved (and there's been a lot of discussion on this the past week), I see two options: 1. Generate the previews from the citations at point. This was the idea that promoted the suggestion here, since I can't get access to that citation data if I use org-cite-make-insert-processor. 2. Instead, have a standardized example record just for the preview. With this approach, the citation context isn't relevant. As to your question, do any style UIs currently allow you to select a style on a new citation before selecting the keys? Bruce
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2217 bytes --] my solution to this (which I think worked well) is to select the keys, and insert a default style, and then you run a command that updates the style. that way you can get the keys that are in the citation easily from org-element-context, and then I can make a preview for each style that is consistent with the best guess for what the exporter is. (based on the cite_export keyword, or a default choice). On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 8:58 PM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Nicolas, > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 3:28 PM Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes: > > > > > But to do that best and most consistently (next step is CSL, for > > > example), I need the citation accessible from there, so I can run the > > > export processors to generate the previews. > > > > > > Could we possibly tweak SELECT-STYLE to take one argument: citation? > > > > When you are inserting a whole new citation, what would be the value? > > nil? What would you display then? > > The first iteration of the idea behind the request is this style selection > UI: > > > https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1134/126531061-40cf47ab-0c7f-42ac-8ddb-341e7ab70d4b.png > > So the idea is to present a preview of the style/variant output when > selecting the style. > > Like: > > / (Doe, 2019) > > ... or maybe even multiple columns: > > / (Doe, 2019) \citep > > I'm thinking the best way to build this UI is to iterate through > org-cite-support-styles, and run at least the default export processes > to create that preview annotation, > > As my thinking has evolved (and there's been a lot of discussion on > this the past week), I see two options: > > 1. Generate the previews from the citations at point. This was the > idea that promoted the suggestion here, since I can't get access to > that citation data if I use org-cite-make-insert-processor. > > 2. Instead, have a standardized example record just for the preview. > With this approach, the citation context isn't relevant. > > As to your question, do any style UIs currently allow you to select a > style on a new citation before selecting the keys? > > Bruce > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3184 bytes --]
Hello,
"Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes:
> So the idea is to present a preview of the style/variant output when
> selecting the style.
>
> Like:
>
> / (Doe, 2019)
>
> ... or maybe even multiple columns:
>
> / (Doe, 2019) \citep
>
> I'm thinking the best way to build this UI is to iterate through
> org-cite-support-styles, and run at least the default export processes
> to create that preview annotation,
>
> As my thinking has evolved (and there's been a lot of discussion on
> this the past week), I see two options:
>
> 1. Generate the previews from the citations at point. This was the
> idea that promoted the suggestion here, since I can't get access to
> that citation data if I use org-cite-make-insert-processor.
>
> 2. Instead, have a standardized example record just for the preview.
> With this approach, the citation context isn't relevant.
>
> As to your question, do any style UIs currently allow you to select a
> style on a new citation before selecting the keys?
I added a citation argument to select-style. Let me know if it works for you.
Regards,
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Nicolas Goaziou