From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id AHBMDKd5rV4+VwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 02 May 2020 13:46:15 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id uFPDHLB5rV7rPQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 02 May 2020 13:46:24 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142::17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A97DF940AF4 for ; Sat, 2 May 2020 13:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45898 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsTH-0003A4-To for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:46:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsSr-00036W-Gz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:45:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsSq-0006Q8-Lo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:45:57 -0400 Received: from mail-vk1-xa31.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::a31]:34032) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsSq-0006Nz-6V for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:45:56 -0400 Received: by mail-vk1-xa31.google.com with SMTP id p5so3417552vke.1 for ; Sat, 02 May 2020 06:45:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wozaGJdTj7bVRzNob8GTloUceOd37zunTg968Q/oTxM=; b=lfGGHcRH2jh5JKokeszi/JXIKpDhO0QwY8rS7E86XUbx2afKxiOGNf0gMExaQUSJQG 1AB8XOqVzIV4LI2TOdjSVqPB2GefymK6XvR7J1Z8Vjm5nHI3FJcqLSIflMUm71WDdPwG wmShRGHvGOQTEXB1qJR/WR/gaMxnMVhI7s5cyjuEpL60NrWk15WmrJVyeh00F2ucrmtf Qs5D7cyRnAH5czKBIdeG9yAMXlA8sgsI4ugJHrD8gBoOzQhoi19i8xLeuMs30Y83oTIF 24fHk77A6qTO4WRasr4UwpLZOeT/TOAplJvW+q2eHXLmTVsWh0aYPyOvAvJC7Ejin65P J+aw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wozaGJdTj7bVRzNob8GTloUceOd37zunTg968Q/oTxM=; b=pqMZGhLG0Yr6Ox7W0of4yuiStj5p5AmGiQ8zZ8uMMtgYKIbj2aACrkmsUlyS5jDkZL gEX5cxP/TIRC2BLlaIQvwtjWDsyqQGk3Sv3UeW4jruqZTjBiVw3OyHdJ5vkU3DjPhXF5 mkiZxZWxytvYZLuWW++OjPwL2m557Ud6nfIYwLQYnkAcaF8Vxz1HCiSH4890BzBl9YGS n2X+2GRr1JjSckqQLcDO6IWii/7uy2wpbLq+OGM2psJ2s78t8w+52YmHVNqaDVSqKVoH Uv6t/+0stCQ82jijjWcf1O1u7VSuD6mNUmPIvLKr7lgGf/DiVyEupMgic5HlR9CKuoMG 92hw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaJ7sHKjwdWXjpE9nsLhkcaC9p1ts+RQfIfRxTWL6AcGoouNw+x fsex2q7D6LHd4qMfuZa2L9ixmLTXioba38IClMo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKrjf1vL7QeAcbQWjiQ8ATqNBsCR3uYIZ1VLmCg/4auTzLcJ1S84FxkCU2PGp5ijYYSPJFL03t54dTUOc59VmQ= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:ff11:: with SMTP id p17mr5828928vki.25.1588427155054; Sat, 02 May 2020 06:45:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <777184861.71192.1586510991834@office.mailbox.org> <1016821769.78551.1586641375789@office.mailbox.org> <87h7xp0z1y.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874kto245n.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87sgh8zpmg.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <1084456979.81820.1586724551265@office.mailbox.org> <877dykz6ri.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87r1wrwvam.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87wo6hfg4k.fsf@aquinas> <87v9lx6ju6.fsf@aquinas> <87r1wj7scc.fsf@aquinas> <87lfmjzgeq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h7x7z62q.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87k11v5zdn.fsf@aquinas> <87ees27a49.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> In-Reply-To: <87ees27a49.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> From: "Bruce D'Arcus" Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 09:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback To: Richard Lawrence , "Bruce D'Arcus" , org-mode-email , John Kitchin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::a31; envelope-from=bdarcus@gmail.com; helo=mail-vk1-xa31.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::a31 X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -1.71 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lfGGHcRH; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-1.71 / 13.00]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49500473327833]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[gmail.com:server fail,2001:470:142::17:server fail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.15), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.50)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[uni-tuebingen.de,gmail.com,gnu.org,andrew.cmu.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bdarcus@gmail.com,emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[nicolasgoaziou.fr:email]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[emacs-orgmode@gnu.org]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: kGqe+aO8BZvI On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 9:13 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > I suggested to support at least "cite", "cite/text" and "cite/paren", > but it sounds like "cite/paren" is not possible with Citeproc. This > doesn't matter much, we can limit the supported set to "cite" and > "cite/text" in Citeproc. Just to clarify here (hopefully I do; I know this is complicated), in author-date CSL styles, the default is effectively cite/paren. Here's the citation template layout for APA, for example: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/apa.csl#L1672 Which means "(Doe, 2018)". Suppress-author and intext variants modify that default. Bruce