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If you have everything in one file, that becomes a problem. https://github.com/emacs-citar/citar/issues/397#issuecomment-1221604952 On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 7:42 AM Ypo wrote: > > I asked some months ago about the possibility of using an ORG file at the same time as bibliography and as a notebook. > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-10/msg00619.html > > > It seems someone is making it possible :-D > > https://gist.github.com/andras-simonyi/eda0daa0b677838022fd7c438b6eadfa > > https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/wqjare/comment/iku77h0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 > > > > >