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To: Ypo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42f; envelope-from=bdarcus@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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Conversation is above my head, but just in case it could be helpful, I would like to address a frequent problem in the workflow of taking notes, that advanced users suffer too. > > When taking notes, it's usual to make some bibliographical references in one file and some related notes in a different file. I link both using internal links, but it can't be exported directly as a bibliography, which would be cool indeed. > > Could a citation act as a link, or a link to be exported as a citation? In general, a citation is conceptually a kind of specialized link. And org-ref and now org-cite is designed around the possibility of attaching actions to those citations. So, for example: > An example, could the link "[[id:20210607T083216.726761][...]]" be substituted by a cite, that takes you to the reference? The oc-basic processor has an at-point function that will do just this, if by "reference" you mean the bibtex (and maybe ultimately csl json) source entry. Have you looked at org-roam and org-roam-bibtex? If not, that might give you some ideas, as it heavily relies on org links, but also has support for citations. Plans there are to support org-cite, BTW. Bruce