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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org Mode List , Nicolas Goaziou Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619462252; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=wefLNjSSTnuV7GG+uRE+dzsuABDwd4kz5pz0lohOu0o=; b=uLF/DR4kr5UynnaSYu/+Ya6YWWqa78FXtb83bNtwU+2BkXMd+HXAieuQziX7cKNWhqY4UP 0H6Tj8BDlaA68cLHBmfRIwD6P8WtUCwbYuOSVoH0upTlbXgNZmDfs4TerZbth5UyYtLeLx 4O/5P6YJQyctBCUdVaOLRDKlj4NRNAWKPB4o27xp8NmWK6x/VxqGHuMa1rVXgU4xqQVlBY /kPjERkSoDlBxlDl0KOQUf84Ydy8PwGbbR7/oibIrWwzlYKOVe4mYr1w66Xkp6ZVIqOfea PfNKs76WwvMk/RFWLZycOnaTAh/XWLGEKuWwOPW86erOBL1AXPRAERp7c2qlMA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619462252; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=AF9lkWiIXi8K9mGADq3MzeDg26BfzsZ34vFBoaC1C/i6dfPZQK+Irf1P0O7DNy2yBViS+H L/DYYE37wWFs6yyt5UFOHWDBxQMhHh0129xilvT5oEaxDY3ZhuSSfRZhi0LzM4X2yh2JBf An6+0LqH4UyiWgl8oPMo7w/uS0tK/8GWTXPW+yTexE0tX+rcvpjiScBLqPQ0KFBvPMxjMO mw9VYdI3vl0UFXHjwQ9zMFHygEEmQ75xxpM88zvuhuzTbFMyR9SrBw1oQlP7dc8A9KdClU DkgRotVocixCF5bsXWnFusXYew8gozfqRqtPpFtEoK6HcSiG0bhwIXtgr6HWZg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dWYMR2Bt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.15 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dWYMR2Bt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 18A4913D10 X-Spam-Score: -3.15 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: n0dT7x03kbfn On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 5:20 PM Denis Maier wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > great to see that there's been so much progress since this issue has > last been discussed! Looks really impressive so far. > > Two comments/questions: > > - I think it should be possible to use some markup in prefixes and suffixes. On this, on the other (big) wip-cite thread, Nicolas said the following: "A drawback with allowing emphasis there is that prefix and suffix become parsed data and not plain string anymore. As a consequence, searching through them, e.g., when looking for locator names, requires an additional level of indirection, since you need to first transform parsed data back into plain text." Nicolas: I get that you need more code to do this, but are there other practical consequences of allowing more than plain-text? Bruce