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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620304717; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=A6jUXvSBocp02+tNmj95lXZp4mPJa2bjEtxyS0+S3g8=; b=bbtLJWtdxzOJcfqJkNFGkC/JXuohhLqBFOphkiYNXNTnNw3ppa3auv1qOK2qFAyFrwU0VB sRMuien8ZcRplTzlsW8JJTnOjEYY+SsIWFgFmj8cpIbmD9BYIVjVmoQbcnLzRnGIFUePRq x4ZHfzDC0DARcjBz3btkhaWq8Gty8y7ZXIu3gsHYH2+NzOobgrOUJVRADE0v1+Fkuno9RW P3Joq86d+IkmQOpAjdYeeNeuzC9azVjSxNnJtZq4lxoq3/rLgUNkmo3vcvcWv13IpfbT+w txRMEBpbZeOa1YJufRKZAVlzMxeDhahYqjmy7JQjus+qJ+36/gcxmWIgg3KVKg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620304717; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=gIAhK195FyPQZ60cQZOLJ/8ORU+KsQQ++vpdtYh+w6+r3c4jHrjIM5bnCoRk1/5Bp55xfY eV5vUrpDQJiN5F8kNPDM46ZhMDS9YLA4oM5/WKCXx0p1aV7YIN0SeLxJ449RRNOZ3joHxW JWgKvFE2YwilQWkgfPhOLpHbGeNxWw+KW1VpK4NZRni+7femEJ+P0QrQlfZWCzBF7qZ6JD AvYG2PLWoDazGEz34gYxShyUhfzvuv8jaY0zpzHjEkGxBPp4xWvB71Fhk6DAkAJ+3cDCdo eBEavoieMLDzccZRnt8ACa717W7tzj+x16a9Ofx+f0DwuhGfw905pEqNc0sNgQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=IkydeSsw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.66 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=IkydeSsw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 42BE32307E X-Spam-Score: -1.66 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: ItJJMvaAZQss Your other message, Nicolas, came in as I finished this, but I'll post this anyway. On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 8:11 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > I added the following to the wiki page, which I think addresses this: > > > > Note that `text/alt` would not make sense, as the sub-style in this case > > would override the style. > > The first case means inheritance ignores sub-styles. Those are added as > a second pass. The second case means anything with a sub-style is > excluded from inheritance. Both make sense. > > Did I say I don't like sub-styles already? :) What about a middle-ground, which would be a flat list of sub-styles, like: - alt - alt-caps - alt-caps-full - caps - caps-full - full You still need to realize the "alt" options don't apply to the text style, but this is at least simpler? Bruce