Re: Chiming in [Re: org-cite not mentioned in ORG-NEWS for 9.5]

["Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>]

Great start!

A few quick comments:

1. I'm not sure we should call them "citation links", since they
aren't really links.

2. "four bibliograhic backends are available": a) note typo (which I
think I saw elsewhere; there are a number of spelling errors
throughout), b) "available" -> "included" (in org)

More generally, it has also occurred to me that some of what Timothy
wrote for this might be repurposed for here:

https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Finally, a question: what's the best way to do complex-ish
documentation like this collaboratively? Is there an alternative to
email + patches for the create, comment, revise cycle of refining
this?

And related: if the goal is to finish this week (?), do we have time
to do comprehensive documentation? I'm a little skeptical.


On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:04 AM Emmanuel Charpentier
<emm.charpentier@free.fr> wrote:
>
> As reported by Bastien, I started a documentation for the current state of the citation engine(s). I intended to complete it, but got "a little" sidetracked.
>
> Enclosed is a patch of where I was in August.
>
> Bastien made the following remarks, which I mostly intended to follow :
>
> ===========================================
>
> Je pense qu'à ce stade, le mieux est de soumettre ce document sur la
> liste de diffusion.
>
> En attendant, j'ai quelques remarques, en vrac :
>
> - Je pense que le titre "Working with…" n'est pas assez explicite. Par
>   ailleurs, le chapitre précédent commence aussi par "Working with…".
>   Par conséquent, je propose d'intervertir la description et le titre :
>
>     * Citations and references
>     :PROPERTIES:
>     :DESCRIPTION: Working with other people's work
>     :END:
>
> - Il faut penser à mettre deux espaces entre deux phrases.
>
> - =Org= -> Org
>
> - J'enlèverais la partie introductive expliquant pourquoi il est utile
>   de citer le travail d'autrui. Ceci dit, il vaut mieux attendre l'avis
>   d'autres personnes concernées par la fonctionnalité.
>
> [ Emmanuel Charpentier : I think that this justification may be helpful to a lot of non-scholar org users, who could benefit from org-cite. Advice sollicited... ]
>
> - Je pense qu'il faut éviter de parler ce "citation link", car cela peut
>   engendrer de la confusion avec "link" qui est une structure proche,
>   mais différent. Peut-être faut-il parler de "citation object".
>
> - Dans Texinfo, les phrases doivent être séparées par deux espaces.
>
> ===========================================
>
> What still lacks :
>
> an explanation of the four possible functions of an engine ;
> current functionalities of the currently available engines ;
> an org-guide sized summary.
>
>
> Anyone is welcome to propose modifications. Someone should take the task of collating the propositions and consolidate a final text ; I am reluctant to take this task, given my RL tasks...
>
> Comments, remarks, criticisms, lazzi, etc... all welcome.
>
> --
> Emmanuel Charpentier