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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode mailing list Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1626526103; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=pdon3nTwwjODUpFE6tCwfvK3fHxM9UtLkfKdI4WUr7Y=; b=E9oRiQuQVFjVzWTXWRLH1YNdT0tmN4jY1oqwMiBRs2GxSf0jBjsH3PRC975Ai1BGsSjNXX tz1Xv+221kyHhADGO4iUWxQ3ckEbugVrwjnpSwN4fkhKu8BDv+ODad4AlWkdzQ7lAfUw8p r2LzehHgi6gyVBqI1juA2X/w6zj2oIn7B+av8rWl0o17LbMg87hYEVciofuPt4XL/DluRP agPxXRJKQG0tYTbuIBwo+1b/JCAKnKm8qaEtNDN237kdq+7E6H6MLxD8bDu9B26Zs4XvFu TbZa33zOrcJLHzN8I97gijMs4FbZv8Cxi2+kZTIOwkDTXztn2Wuh+eGAdguifA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1626526103; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=SuFii7IdnD8PXbD4tKbx21x/xCtpvD5pfo0ouUPhq9gGz+WhXRhV+tDXaZMbSrckk4IG1w WtgFXSSav4bSzY/c3X4PnSV4LH+Fbt5iNloC0oeoSTE0MoVy3ntBdeGE4hTUGUWxwqzIA9 xl9K7ME5iiIVR3qJhRUeEymmLfJpYgYQmjXLzeliKmxv4qXVxN6aWACaNXXXe/A0y4nCib Otwd+cPbcyI83q0DHGIIQ1o/W88YcXWp2Y9zu2ljRvPFmwK9BL7PClbcIWZqsY81PfNsDs sxFqm3Z/JbhVkVWJfg37+ori4Md0zjhEhLn6ggr/x7EZaxcdHAj688O0AaMSMA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=rAt+jLrS; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=rAt+jLrS; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6B8EE1668E X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 8D0gLqwPbkdS We were posting at the same time :-) On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 8:39 AM John Kitchin wrote: > There is not currently a way to get \citet and \citep with the biblatex backend. Yes, but \autocite andt \textcite produce the expected output, and have the advantage they are independent of output format. As in, the current behavior will work in an author-date style or a note-based one. So [cite:@key] and [cite/t:@key] should produce the expected output in both biblatex and natbib. Bruce