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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621511845; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=wit9mmAaEkZT9Fnqg/2kIITjIMAH56SkDvEFXvDE0GA=; b=mcgxUFQxw8NejLFE68FfzUYCgLnMFss9t/hlUZvBdv7hxmY7+4f4BzJvyck7DDP9ZmtI8n Cik6Z25vYq7h5tFneioW8nK7EqOBHfauOOCOf2kTjdlCDLPL0wWTOqopcOmJUkwCOgaK/5 ABytl9AUSwGcndzfToTVpwGlVfg45TeayU7GSZGe0wEI1MUfCffNmg6CNp+BNk1nzzyHvv pblZdFBxnJE2UoyzeJbUq5HSkgr6L2t2sTaiy+m0yQe0LI9G3LAFQPK/nNl2RmYk64BrIu BYaTdJASyTzhPwFAuqzTLB0UG/3F97YCgTL+cow7nEAMka5A9JS/ssMlhJ03BA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621511845; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=XKhhI5P9YyPgT7gZ2jQkclLX02FbE5tiWTUC/vmIa2Mzma6QPCURe/LeeiTU166auTePH9 j/UaOMR9xJe08ep+ZR255ovrZ7dVNMHB8nNZE3wmn+WTVNjdzRH+xr4ksMycq6CMWFbLqR bS1c0WHHc8VqnmsO/S51d0i1ntkfPk9fduSq6Z82FWpg5lp7E6uFZpbok2mOflz+bLfcS2 e48MkS85z4+J0/YiUxBhTJ47KlssWeJ+uatkv4oG/8rvhNXXQkeHMpFB+dlsotpsh7NxMg O4xFbqoKxTYOCkHFO9x1qu93XFip7xZ4kPsUbca7A5mV515f+NteVa1QItlW8g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=JiGJqGoj; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.14 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=JiGJqGoj; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 82F8D19AF1 X-Spam-Score: -3.14 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: D++YhWxTJUhk So backing up a bit, as I was getting confused, here's [1] one summary of the different core biblatex commands. - \cite [autocite=plain]: Citations are typeset as-is; - \parencite [autocite=inline]: Citations are typeset in parentheses; - \footcite [autocite=footnote]: Citations are typeset as footnotes; - \supercite [autocite=superscript] (only available for the numeric style family): Citations are typeset as superscripts. Assuming that's correct, we're trying to sort out the relation between those first two, and autocite; right? I take that summary to mean this basic question can be handled by a combination of autocite and export config; autocite=inline (or autocite=footnote) as default export, but of course configurable? Is that correct? If yes, that seems straightforward; what's the problem we're trying to solve beyond that? Bruce [1] https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/58592