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Nicolas, in particular, any thoughts? On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 2:37 PM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > The current list of styles and variants included in the oc export > processors was a first step, with a goal to provide a solid starting > point, and citations that are more-or-less portable across the > backends. > > But that raises an obvious question: what next? > > I'd like, for example, to suggest adding "noauthor/bare" -> "cite*" to > oc-biblatex. > > I also think we should add a way for users to use a direct command for > natbib and biblatex. > > As I've looked into some of what I'd call corner cases, consistency > breaks down a bit, so it may not be advisable to add explicit support > for certain options, since they won't work across different backends > anyway. > > Perhaps some prefix for a style that signals to pass on directly for a > specific export processor; like [cite/blx+footcite ...]. > > In that case, the oc-biblatex processor would pass that command on as > is, but other processors would ignore it, and use the default instead. > > The documentation would just need to emphasize use of such commands > would necessarily tie those citations to the specific export backend. > > And if we were to add this, we'd still need to answer my first > question: when and how to add specific style/variant mappings to the > oc processors. > > Thoughts? > > Bruce