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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s_Simonyi?= Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619532500; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=5GCNw5BD5Rz9/QDeFuwIFOjNXhdzON4RRj9L7V86xIs=; b=iEbJUvFJ/9YhBEQ2jH5NNoOn+0OcbYhrGEBci5DIXhmKhrpyyErMmuF3wCSTwfgWZquHBH PkcByoKKPoUg4Lk1cb4DLJpqHivn1YQWP8lKqo8ZVhhy/cBbKdEilF6QqEJbzLElDp0wiR bkslHy26wh9WIMBtpuFUgDuu7dcnFREDJUckvaj5Lv+lEp4Srvh2Jb8L2GZQWCm/ohi6np OluFLz5QcLyf3QB6bl5jl3K1ob5EXV3MtMMLJWIRjnFKCJBSu9i+QUqjB835kQf0FW/QrM iOvxUZ9bnpi3TeRJHR30+dVGQA/+QLrLfl8tVvQT58eKURAcmpiTACF7ErartA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619532500; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=MGfNCCHQtF4I3PHgSo5TG30QfLRsFOeoRmH9DtlgvIRwaLJ6Es88sL7L9YQPjR9BB40TOR bx6nBkdziK49zzZP3lobCUdcS2sGrtFoMwfmzU6V19DTcrQzJ0AA5tkWLRL63FWQtUnGJj u74/x7k1lCXC450c44KswmFFr2Bvlu69XYf1UPfDxxHo4Y1tv89B7RuCNEOY3gfw2BlNgq wba087hPs8R/2aCmM65ruwoweblJitlpiRyc7TP1opEan/Ph63GM+m74H3BGQSPB/00EQR +sWGhYnKDVYxlLa3/h+yIeoowHYAS5s3/3j8WMF5KpxrKYf11xjbozLxc9ZJZQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ibWiRL+k; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.79 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ibWiRL+k; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AB4EE36B41 X-Spam-Score: -3.79 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: +IGSQ9HvYlvs On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:58 AM Denis Maier wrote: > > Your example fails on 1 because it suggests the citation attaches to > > (starts) the following sentence. > > Only if you mentally parse it as a parenthetical author-date citation. I don't think so. A period is a way we delimit sentences; is it not? ... > I'm after all not totally sure we need a one-size-fits-all solution. This particular sub-thread started when Andras noted he needed a way to handle this case, and Nicolas coded up an initial example. So I think we just need to establish what a reasonable default is. Bruce