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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1626626284; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=xkUTe1PienIQaHTEwYoBblIvza8+6zOYW1H49DUhpCw=; b=TFiWhtrd/NnGpRimdbImOQ9P9lbYHyPxDWjKN2Dd684EMHqjlZtLHSqYBYEy1T//9jejeJ KK4t+PzwpIn410xhwbeTc2HzJ70h0e1BjAoAFiXds6b3RH8iPUF6219DdeE555ccWppwDF lYTUhBC2GUa90o27D+gYPhGHSKDohoNV0yoNNR7AQcFV5KJF+n4wQ5l+5TvXdVwdRmxSjq kvUoY6uJ2HGMW+UYW+/0iS3M/C2k3aR7t/CGYyhSeZgRusou1XEXPDEvpCTm9XL3U/B4WO cw7xLUk3Zug5rgn20vGwA7AxDiGh/cn4es2DjzMRcEQlwkqD0g+O4L1r+M1zvA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1626626284; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=HsSPbx5tVSKRqSMnTVIyPBJU0HThUF+5VWn9fkEmKdg83Xn/ixTwQSpT08WmiNpHcuJstr PeMOxw7g8rb5o+twrznNO/spEZjQZos12XjmjAfVQvIJU4uxdLucQrqAFC0ZeYGlsj5weJ 94lSl4EsK78U3MvXXUjApVDlDAmKTqn+6DRPQIEjvXLDVeY3ETI1+eqaCnMMNR1rCk8szq 2IvmnqdloVv622saG8SGVN2ZM9off+3Re5DNy/xO0EvonnBsvfYP/J1kwzeiF5FkQMv3Rh DLmKOzdzCVWdQL7ytFTpN9dlDHksH1DycjnpzPzyfz4CN+pyAKhc2JrGHPGZvA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=JeG3Nr3A; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=JeG3Nr3A; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: ED4764128 X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 2DtDsnsT0VTd --000000000000a62e3605c7686fda Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Unlike John, I don't have a working demo of this particular smaller idea, but as it relates to the styles/commands question, I thought I'd mention it. 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You can also find a link to the code to run it in the > description > > there. > > > > I don't intend this to be a final video (it is still a little rough!), > it is > > just to help people see what I am thinking about for the future of > org-ref, at > > least as far as the citations go. > > > > John > > > > ----------------------------------- > > Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his) > > Doherty Hall A207F > > Department of Chemical Engineering > > Carnegie Mellon University > > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > > 412-268-7803 > > @johnkitchin > > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu > --000000000000a62e3605c7686fda Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Unlike John, I don't have a working= demo of this particular smaller idea, but as it relates to the styles/comm= ands question, I thought I'd mention it.

So the idea is to use the style completion UI to show = the user what the options are, by including the export preview; for the tex= export processors, it would be the latex commands, and for CSL, would be t= he rendered output.

Whil= e I don't have it running, this should definitely be doable.

I put an initial mockup here.


P= robably something like this should be added to oc-basic at some point.

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 12:10 AM Vikas Rawal <vikasrawal@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
This is very helpful alr= eady. Keenly looking forward to how this develops.

Vikas

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 04:52:33PM -0400, John Kitchin wrote:
> I made a video of my current org-cite setup at=C2=A0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D
> 4ta4J20kpmM. You can also find a link to the code to run it in the des= cription
> there.
>
> I don't intend this to be a final video (it is still a little roug= h!), it is
> just to help people see what I am thinking about for the future of org= -ref,=C2=A0at
> least as far as the citations go.
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his)
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
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