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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619526395; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=iT09uRvgBcsRHb5QUQc2bFe/EYX4PiFY7cxlLMOYuzk=; b=Ze54OMeXg6YGbaZ4eP8Svx6uCk5PKS66WmXxhq2yA/O0xa3Dd6FJEQEVNUzXDB1MKY4Nbq DxXYAhz2RLTn5h28i0Oh1tqyY+VSYgIm4riJCyu5HfQ0Vui+1McNnvGZb4Wyenx+jTlVwI RQH5HGjvQAEOZ1x9KR1NwumRhDG4qQ0TEMM5Mvg5ltw1e4Agvr+qDhOtkp364K0qCXWo7t +P8Ip4hm8gFSPvyIXUHnVmIqKNUIh+VSdCfaoVc0r5xnxQefjav/mABLowOEac79Iz9f+N syGVCFRtjPBt3wu6naQPUhF1/CCmX8u2Tug80JGPSJibQKG8sFVj7NKoXJXLYw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619526395; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ume/+/IL6bx4EIznQN1ElibPsXXOmFxV3boreaKgAM9HztQfYNUqxjmt7KOMaSzHCwt1AL Xwu04vBxC//UTCKKmDxM5oy7VRRyRVixmdK/kX2x3Mx0PQ//REubh+esI/JnwLDZWpwLk7 4M5+NJ9l3K2EfQJSMQKsJ2xJTPycjhKOrXOZyjP7ARd97q8a2yq+qUp7jGhyMND5Qh4MRw HFK0ui5vGg/nswQUnC7FCqmPptQtu95EdQpFh1DP0dLHwWu/pJCj7Z9NCwOkkI6H9GaTOm E1d/IpIOo+Hnu7y2dM5Um9KcZ1coOfwoScvpcg+V3sUmtDZgbf9CPc/aFJy06Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=IT1jsJB6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.15 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=IT1jsJB6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4655733D0B X-Spam-Score: -3.15 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: ekIsOA7dA4Z2 On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 4:02 PM Nicolas Goaziou wr= ote: > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > Nicolas: I get that you need more code to do this, but are there other > > practical consequences of allowing more than plain-text? > > The code I need to write does not count, really. It is 10 locs at most, > without the tests. > > My concern is the additional burden for processor developers. They will > need to shift from one representation to the other, this is not > convenient. Also some tasks then become an order of magnitude harder. I see. So, for example, Andr=C3=A1s currently has the function 'citeproc-org--parse-locator-affix', which takes as input a suffix string. That would need to be adapted to allow this, and it could be a hassle. I agree with Denis that some users will want this, but I am unsure how common the request might be. Here's a thought: How about having suffix plain text, since this is where locators are parsed, and they are particularly important, but allow more on prefixes? Bruce