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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s_Simonyi?= Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619875653; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=wJH+5Np8mE8G4fqVMpIiXmfI34fv2Phwfk6WeliD9+c=; b=mNNa71Sz6vwiv56GK4/I2kh8U0snik+Dw7/frCPeMVL8zOLBFQ0ccnyHdQHMWOfdk9F+ot PcxAXpi/jzaaeXOmG8l5QJuR8VoD6/JF6F5sWnnT48H8qjK3NZhRHZS9awWYTq58FDC+ys cM1Aq3XH27WLGH1ZRnjtJhIswK1GwbWv/mH/YHyhvzgb1BVoHwPpJeO88J3O4Q1ifQCqOL XAooTxJ99yXRH8XLF5i3ZYcEObdWYqswZOwu/uD/7+I68P8Rvd/fVLi1uscUqXJjFhpbqF o8x/ibgPAyHe92sWstV8oIZB2IcnbR1tI1inKfFWXOZXO0LC0QZ9HuwKTlquBA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619875653; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=CxEofbMssa1dXOtaQuM/KNcPaeXzOvtAw6Ek+ToJf22x35g3ePvF6XgTlR7J18xvbWzvmv c1X5BNQAeYJb8IIwiXXAkc2pyk7JbC1lUjyO1TosfEmOt9cGG+AZ/pQO47gCHQ1HKsPR9/ xydPwqPAoX7hvA2plid2MM+ZsCcTYaTAJjKxP5OuSNIzfSQ6eOTsJo0NkICOkdPaeskj+x 9+WIoXgpmsAeV4LB4KajmLGg8IolkXLdbJ4tvELNbtw9wrkHJIqmIpWyQ48ETpoe88w124 7NNFUk7didNFTQ71i5ev3F19D8Zascu0/aPQjeoCLIz/ivkxI4hXMECvb3b30A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ifowdgX9; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.36 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ifowdgX9; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6BF35124B1 X-Spam-Score: -1.36 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Y4TmeA2Thg5T On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 5:48 PM Denis Maier wrote: > Yes, this should be equivalent to the behaviour in pandoc. > > However, as I've said before, this behaviour is only correct in American > English. Denis and I are working on sorting out the details of how to address this off-list ATM. But I'm tentatively thinking this could be addressed by splitting the MOVE-PUNCTUATION parameter in two, so that we have: MOVE-PUNCTUATION: Move punctuation character following citation before it, when applicable (for example [TODO]). PUNCTUATION-INSIDE-QUOTES: If a quotation mark precedes the citation, move punctuation before it, too, unless [TODO] So for the examples Nicolas posted, this: (org-cite-wrap-citation citation info t) =E2=80=A6 would change to this: (org-cite-wrap-citation citation info t t) ... and to get the British/German output it would be: (org-cite-wrap-citation citation info t nil) More when we figure out if this is feasible, with example input/output, etc= . Bruce