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From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs@gmail.com>
To: Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-table change time from UTC to other timezones
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:29:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-1L2TwN+g+-sPuK81ctGdGs-mVQ6gsX=NECCY3VdSdUMEKXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rr5hhg$ol7$1@ciao.gmane.io>

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Both of these links, like your comments, are incredibly useful.

Happy New Year (however you may measure that thing)

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 9:05 AM Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2020-12-13 Alan E. Davis wrote:
> >
> > I think R would not be too unwieldy as a hammer here.  My use case  is a
> > humble one: just take a several clock times in HH:MM format (utc) and
> > adjust to  another timezone by adding or subtracting the relevant number
> > of hours.  The day of week is not important; i will have to deal with
> > it.  I did imagine a conditional subtraction by adding of subtracting
> > 24:00 as needed.
> Likely your approach is suitable for you and you could ignore my
> comments. I just live in a city having longitude that should be (and it
> was) the border between time zones, so majority do not like any
> decision. Since cancellation of DST 10 years ago, local time has been
> shifted 2 times...
> To get time offset for some timezone, it is necessary to specify
> timestamp, so a date is required in addition to time. Namely day of week
> is mostly irrelevant.
> Time transitions are usually arranged at night when most of people are
> not active. Astronomers is a different case, that is why their chance to
> face a timezone bug is higher.
> When operations with arbitrary time zones are not required and a process
> could be run with TZ variable set to desired time zone, libc functions
> should work correctly. I have not tried elisp functions
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Time-Zone-Rules.html
> A bookmark for those who still hopes to avoid complications with
> time-related operations
> Falsehoods programmers believe about time
> https://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time

      "This ignorance about the limits of the earth's ability to absorb
       pollutants should be reason enough for caution in the release
       of polluting substances."
                   ---Meadows et al.   1972.  Limits to Growth
(p. 81)

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-14  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-09 10:20 org-table change time from UTC to other timezones Alan E. Davis
2020-12-09 11:34 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-10  8:10   ` Alan E. Davis
2020-12-10 19:01     ` Tim Cross
2020-12-11  0:12       ` Alan E. Davis
2020-12-11 15:40         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-11 22:44           ` Alan E. Davis
2020-12-12 16:04             ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-12 22:52               ` Tim Cross
2020-12-13  3:14                 ` Alan E. Davis
2020-12-13 17:03                   ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-14  2:29                     ` Alan E. Davis [this message]
2020-12-12  3:31           ` Jean Louis

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