From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mike Fitzgerald Subject: Updating info files Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:02:37 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d63f2ad64b5604c1bf2183 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55118) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sbzxm-0005KH-N9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:02:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sbzxf-0006mD-UV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:02:46 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com ([209.85.212.177]:63108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sbzxf-0006lr-Ic for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:02:39 -0400 Received: by wibhm14 with SMTP id hm14so3185977wib.12 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:02:37 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --0016e6d63f2ad64b5604c1bf2183 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Windows 7, EMACS 23.4 I tried this in my .emacs to update info files ;; Info directory (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list (expand-file-name "~/.emacs.d/org-7.8.11/doc)")) As recommended here. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html C-h i still brings up the old info files. files are there: org.pdf rg.texi rgcard.pdf rgcard.tex rgcard_letter.pdf rgguide.pdf rgguide.texi Any suggestions? Thanks Mike On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Nick Dokos wrote: > Mike Fitzgerald wrote: > > > Great! > > Followed your latest recommendations and all seems well. > > > > Glad to hear it. > > > A couple of things: > > > > 1) The defun > > > > (defun my/compile-org(&optional directory) > > "Compile all *.el files that come with org-mode." > > > > is at http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html. > > > > Yeah, Achim pointed it out, so I added a warning to stay away from it for > now. > > > 2) The org mode update info on the net is confusing to me. > > > > You might want to post a note to the list (as detailed as possible > please!) about this. There is always room for improvement in this area. > > > 3) The command (require 'org-capture) does not appear anywhere on > http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#Capture > > Which is the most offcical looking page has capture stuff. > > Seems that it should be near the top. > > Tried re-running without (require 'org-capture) and it still works. > > Another package must be loading it. > > > > It's probably not necessary, just paranoia on my part. > > > 4) Is there a pain free way to get org mode info files updated? > > > > My preference is to initialize the environment variable INFOPATH to point > to the various directories that contain info files that I'm interested in > (in addition to the standard ones). That might or might not work well for > you on windows though. > > > 5) How 2 byte compile? > > (perhaps it does not need byte compile, seems fast enough) > > > > I almost always run without byte-compilation (mostly because I don't > really use org-mode to its fullest potential, but I often end up > debugging things: org-mode is more a hobby for me, not so much a > productivity tool). > > You will probably want to learn enough about git and the repo eventually > and use that to (frequently!) update your installation, because org is a > fast moving target and eventually you will lust after the latest and > greatest feature which only exists on the bleeding edge version; but > that will mean that you probably will want to install a make tool on > windows: it's too much of a pain otherwise. > > > Thanks 4 being responsive and a clean dispo. > > > > Getting over the initial hump is the biggest obstacle new users face, > so I try to help them do that. > > Nick > --0016e6d63f2ad64b5604c1bf2183 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Windows 7, EMACS 23.4

I tried this in my .emacs to update info files=
=A0
;; Info directory
(add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-li= st
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (expand-file-name "~/.emacs= .d/org-7.8.11/doc)"))

As recommended here.
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html

C-h i still brings up the= old info files.

files are there:

org.pdf
rg.texi
rgcar= d.pdf
rgcard.tex
rgcard_letter.pdf
rgguide.pdf
rgguide.texi

Any s= uggestions?

Thanks

Mike

On = Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>= wrote:
Mike Fitzgerald <mikef656@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great!
> Followed your latest recommendations and all seems well.
>

Glad to hear it.

> A couple of things:
>
> 1) The defun
>
> (defun my/compile-org(&optional directory)
> =A0 "Compile all *.el files that come with org-mode."
>
> is at http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html.
>

Yeah, Achim pointed it out, so I added a warning to stay away from it= for now.

> 2) The org mode update info on the net is confusing to me.
>

You might want to post a note to the list (as detailed as possible please!) about this. There is always room for improvement in this area.

> 3) The command (require 'org-capture) does not appear anywhere on = ht= tp://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#Capture
> Which is the most offcical looking page has capture stuff.
> Seems that it should be near the top.
> Tried re-running without (require 'org-capture)=A0 and it still wo= rks.
> Another package must be loading it.
>

It's probably not necessary, just paranoia on my part.

> 4) Is there a pain free way to get org mode info files updated?
>

My preference is to initialize the environment variable INFOPATH to p= oint
to the various directories that contain info files that I'm interested = in
(in addition to the standard ones). That might or might not work well for you on windows though.

> 5) How 2 byte compile?
> (perhaps it does not need byte compile, seems fast enough)
>

I almost always run without byte-compilation (mostly because I don= 9;t
really use org-mode to its fullest potential, but I often end up
debugging things: org-mode is more a hobby for me, not so much a
productivity tool).

You will probably want to learn enough about git and the repo eventually and use that to (frequently!) update your installation, because org is a fast moving target and eventually you will lust after the latest and
greatest feature which only exists on the bleeding edge version; but
that will mean that you probably will want to install a make tool on
windows: it's too much of a pain otherwise.

> Thanks 4 being responsive and a clean dispo.
>

Getting over the initial hump is the biggest obstacle new users face,=
so I try to help them do that.

Nick

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